I don't get it. Joe has drafted people who had not regiostered in his thread (Zchinque AND p1na) ? That's... not the best way to ensure motivated gaming. "I don't care if town loses or win" ? Cool, thanks for coming. :-/

Anyway, I kinda agree with Vitek about Amok - I also think that a mafiosi would have continued the act, and validated, for instance, a scumbuddy's "clue". Or taken the chance of validating a townie's. I see only twnie reasons to drop the act at some point.

But on the other hand he is, yes, a liability. First because nothing from him can be trusted - even as a townie he might keep miseading us with random claims and statements, part of half-baked stratégies that just divert us from actual scumhunting. Then because it would REALLY be annoying to end the game and find out that "haha, this was a lie too". Amok, as a townie, makes us waste time and effort, something that we can deal with by lynching him once and for all - or try to ignore in order to avoid further "waste" but at the cost of insecurity and, possibly, continuing perturbation.

Amok may not be scum, and I feel that, even as a townie, he corners us into lynching him. And that is annoying. Anyway, it means that I would agree to lynch him, even to hammer, but, while this is being discussed, I keep my vote on the one I actually believe to be scum.

Vote Nmillar.

I think that, without Nmillar, I'd be voting Amok at this point, just to "stabilise" this issue.

Mmm... I guess Joe was anxious to start the game. =/

Yes.

But Pina offered the first part of that information himself. He had no obligation to share the other part so I don't see how it could be called witholding information. You yourself shared the info after him.
Why do you find it "interesting"? You knew it yourself so what do you find so interesting about it?

Red_baron corrected me on this oney. He actually voted amok shortly before deadline, but he hid it into text, it was hard to spot and I missed it. My bad.

Sorry, did not see. Is there a reason why I said it leaves room for 1 female? Yes, because the one not on the list (me) is female. I thought it was obvious...

Oh, so he did. I didn't find it the first time I looked because I was looking for him quoting you. He replied without a quote or anything so I skimmed past it. =/

Okay, so, what is not obvious is :

1) Frances is a male name ? I have never heard of Frances as a male name. But, again, I had never heard Edie either, so, well.

2) Frances is indeed part of a "messirs" in the OP (so, if it's wrongly attributed to a man, it's Joe's fault).

3) TwilightBard mentions a clue about Frances Page, but is confused about the gender. "A Mr. Frances Page" on and [url=http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_19_a_slalom_mafia/post505]Should be a Mrs. Frances Page after my miscorrection (it that a word ? it's a concept). Not sure how it can be discussed with Joe's terrifying threat, but it can mean two things : Ether a laconic clue that indeed leaves gender open to interpretation (but then why would the first interpretation be -coincidentally rightfully- male, if then it is presented as an obvious mistake requiring a disfunctional brain), or an invented clue based on gender knowledge, which was then pulled back as meant to be unknown ("woot, was i supposed to know that frances is male ?"). To be honest, I'd love this confusion to be telling something, but I feel it's pretty unconclusive, and is only the sort of thing that gets a retroactive "but of course!" meaning, whatever it turns up to be... Still, mentionning it, in case somebody spots an "aHA" in it.

4) Why didn't anyone correct my list, as I kept using "Frances" as female in it ?

It did not fit in with my agenda of of being a non-gender dog at the time :)

I almost thought that cover was blown by Twilight back then. Good thing he went back on himself.

I cannot believe you're still alive. :P

So we're back to "Oh, I'm not on the list"...


Because it is a female name?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances

well.. wither I am not on the list, or 2 of us have the same name. There is a name missing, and it is mine. Though, I am not a dog

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I am in fact a cat, which is why I am not afraid to be lynched - as I have 9 lives. I am Whiskers MacSilky.
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(the last bit was a joke, by the way)

I believe.

Why do I get the horrible feeling Amok is a jester type? No-one could come out with continual anti-town, confusing and contradictory posts, jumping all over the place, without actually wanting to be lynched, surely...

I'm all for enjoying the game and having a laugh, but 'enjoying' by not really putting any effort in to hunt scum and help town puts p1na right up there on the scum list as well

Hmm, actually Amok being a jester makes the most sense.

The question is, do we lynch him to get rid of the distraction or try and ignore him? What if we get to the end after ignoring him for the whole game and he turns out to be scum? Argh.