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Posted April 23, 2014
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DarkoD13: So if I'm getting this right, you claim you've asked everyone but flub about "the" murder? And you asked flub about murders in general?
I found that odd myself.

As I've stated before (at least I recall stating this before), my question to JMich went along the lines of, "Did you have anything to do with the murder?" while you can see the question I asked Vitek above (post 1964).

Flubbucket was the only one that had a more general question, something like, "Have you ever been involved in murder?" This, plus the flatulence and subsequent embarrassment (the latter on my part), do make me suspect of flub. I am, however, not sure if these differences are simply down to the random numbers we pick during the night phase.
Posted April 23, 2014
Wow, an alleged Strongman and no night kill....

Anyone want to venture a guess why?? I only have one person and the evidence from Telika/P1na keeps throwing me into confusion.
Posted April 23, 2014
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P1na: I hate you. I was planning to do that all along, but stayed silent for it to come unexpectedly. And then at the last moment you go and say it.

sigh....
Sorry, I should have trust your judgement more. I will do it next time.
Have you at least done it?

I protected Pina tonight.
My flavour only tells that I was fighting sleep all night guarding his room, though, nothing about protection.
Posted April 23, 2014
Utter nonsense.

Vote: Vitek
Posted April 23, 2014
What is utter nonsense?
Posted April 23, 2014
While I don't like flubbucket's random seeming vote, I'm suspect of Vitek's claim that, "My flavour only tells that I was fighting sleep all night guarding his room, though, nothing about protection."

Does your PM state that you were hanging around outside his room? Mine states that when I entered your room, you were already asleep inside. I don't think you could have done an awfully good job protecting P1na while you lay asleep in bed.

Having said this, I don't want to vote just yet. We've had no real discussion, as it's early in the day, and to lynch someone now would be foolish.
Posted April 23, 2014
And what have you expected it to do? To tell you that I was waiting outside Pina's room? Night actions don't work like that.

Why wouldn't I kill if I was mafia?
There would be no doctor left and this can only prolong game by one day allowing 1 more lynch.
Posted April 23, 2014
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Vitek: ...
I think his issue is that his PM says he found you sleeping in your room while you say you were waiting awake all night outside P1na's room. But yeah, there's a high chance it's simple poetic license on Joe's part. I'm not sure how I'd handle it in his place.
My first assumption was that the lack of NK was because of your claimed role. I'm guessing that not receiving any flavor about having successfully protecting P1na is abnormal?

Apart from the lack of NK and JMich's lynch, which was an utter waste and provided zero info, I'm still most suspicious of CSPVG. The more I look into his flub result, the more deliberately vague and confusing it seems.
Posted April 23, 2014
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DarkoD13: I think his issue is that his PM says he found you sleeping in your room while you say you were waiting awake all night outside P1na's room. But yeah, there's a high chance it's simple poetic license on Joe's part.
I understood what he meant but I have never seen mod giving that kind of info about roles to other roles (unless it's the roles purpose).
Doctor doesn't learn what protected person did at night either.
So it never even crossed me that there could be problem.
That's why most of the investigations is done on rooms and not people here on site (or should be without any flavour to avoid this kind of flavour colliding situations)

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DarkoD13: I'm guessing that not receiving any flavor about having successfully protecting P1na is abnormal?
I am not sure.
I think, as mod, I would notify the doctor but I really am not sure if it is rule.

I think there are 4 options why there was no nk, but this will have to wait 'til tomoroow.
Posted April 23, 2014
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Vitek: What is utter nonsense?
You "claim" you protected Telika. Telika is dead.

You "claim" you protected P1na, and CSPVG has you sleeping in your bed. The mod has nothing to do with it. The mod can't have you in two places at once.

You were either protecting P1na or not. If you were, you would not have been in your room.
Posted April 24, 2014
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Vitek: Sorry, I should have trust your judgement more. I will do it next time.
Have you at least done it?

I protected Pina tonight.
My flavour only tells that I was fighting sleep all night guarding his room, though, nothing about protection.
Oh, don't worry about it. Not trusting my judgement is generally the right decision to make, considering my playstyle. It just happened to backfire this one time.

Yes, I went to Darko's room, and I got nothing. I did learn that I look my best on a four piece, which is not that useful since I don't know what a 4 piece it.

On other matters, I decided to trust CSPVG from now on. The way I see it, he will never lie, as there's only 1 mafia remaining. Either he's town and his readings are honest (still leaves the blasted numbers and whatnot as concerns to his accuracy) or he's mafia and he can't afford to say someone else is the culprit since he'd be lynched the moment that person flips town. So, if CSPVG clears someone, I'll consider that person clean for now. I see the point of the conflicting flavour, but generally speaking I wouldn't consider it particularly important. I agree with Vitek on that, and I can see Joe (who was pretty busy and might have had to rush it a bit) just telling each one the flavour separately without thinking of the conflict that generates. That said, you guys have played mafia a lot more than I have, and will likely know Joe better than I do. So if you all think this is not something that should be brushed away, then I'll oblige. In that case, I'd like to point out that CSPVG was the first to say something about Vitek's sleep, and Vitek's post about staying outside my door only happened later.

That leaves Vitek out this time, and I know I'm not mafia, so I have to choose between Flub, Darko and CSPVG himself. I'd like CSPVG to remain to clear someone else next night, and I'm curious about what would happen if flub is targeted again as the previous visit was inconclusive. Actually, I'm surprised CSPVG hasn't done so already. I'd vote for Flub on those grounds alone, but that would only leave CSPVG with Darko and me as possible investigation targets: Darko can't be targeted AFAWK and I know myself to be town, so having flub lynched would not help me get anything out of CSPVG's investigating. That leaves Darko for me to vote for, then hope for CSPVG to investigate flub. If CSPVG declares flub to be mafia, vote for flub tomorrow. And if he's town, it would leave only me not investigated and potential mafia, which would make his investigation pointless and leave me on a rather difficult situation on who to vote for.

However, that's an scenario without nightkill. With nightkill, therew will be 3 people left tomorrow for a mexican standoff. Darko is the only one 100% guaranteed not to be nightkilled, as if he's town he's a commuter and if mafia he won't kill himself. Maybe the remaining mafia attempted to kill him tonight? Or was Vitek's theory accurate, and he can choose either commuting or nightkill, and he expected my visit tonight thanks to Vitek and chose commuting tonight? Will he be unable to kill anyone if we keep investigating him?

Well, this is as far as I'm willing to think at this point.
Posted April 24, 2014
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Posted April 24, 2014
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P1na: That leaves Darko for me to vote for, then hope for CSPVG to investigate flub. If CSPVG declares flub to be mafia, vote for flub tomorrow. And if he's town, it would leave only me not investigated and potential mafia, which would make his investigation pointless and leave me on a rather difficult situation on who to vote for.
But we are only 5 people left and the way you're putting it you'll only vote for CSPVG after everyone is dead.
Posted April 24, 2014
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P1na: ................<snip>..................

That leaves Vitek out this time, and I know I'm not mafia, so I have to choose between Flub, Darko and CSPVG himself.

..................<snip>..................
Why is Telika dead??
Posted April 24, 2014
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flubbucket: Why is Telika dead??
Because they killed him.


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flubbucket: The mod can't have you in two places at once.

You were either protecting P1na or not. If you were, you would not have been in your room.
How would you do it as mod? Would you not allow me to perform my action so CSPVG can perform his in my room? Would you not allow CSPVg to perform his action because I was gone? Or would you tell CSPVG that I was outside room, guarding Pina, which is something his role shouldn't be able to learn at all?
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