Posted December 28, 2013
P1na
Wandering fruit
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From Spain
amok
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From United Kingdom
Posted December 28, 2013
I was *this* close to go there.... but then I remember I was not mafia in this game.
flubbucket
"Intoning"
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amok
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From United Kingdom
Posted December 29, 2013
yeah, I wish I had more to go on to.
Telika
Registered: Apr 2012
From Switzerland
Red_Baron
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amok
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From United Kingdom
Posted December 29, 2013
Telika: What I find weird is that on one hand you calculate based on the principle that everyone else has a couple of "like/dislike", yet you say that your own experience is simply a "like". You assume that your case is unique. For now, I am still wondering whether you have a reason to do so, or if you "made" it unique yourself.
You are also one of the most convinced proponent of full likes/dislikes claim ("don't see what bad can come from it" - for real ?), so that's two things about you that make my eyebrow twitch.
I do have a reasons for my likes/dislikes and lack of clue. I do not make myself unique, but I do think I may be unique in some form among us playing now. I think that is about all I want/can say about that. You are also one of the most convinced proponent of full likes/dislikes claim ("don't see what bad can come from it" - for real ?), so that's two things about you that make my eyebrow twitch.
Yeah, the calculations are based on best possible circumstances, and I do acknowledge that things may not turn out according to those circumstances. But it is so far all the data I have to work by, so I make those assumptions. When coming to bad outcomes - I think I am putting myself very much in the firing lane by going out so strongly like this (from both being lynched and from getting night killed), but I do think that the best option we have right now is to be as open as possible to see if this can be figured out.
Likewise, I would also question someone not wanting to try to figure out the clues to the murder we have been given. I do think that the risk by far is outweighed by the possibility to just string up the killers if the clues do reveal who they are.
Telika
Registered: Apr 2012
From Switzerland
Posted December 29, 2013
Red_Baron: Just trying to understand this part, is it supposed to be on the same line - what does cspvg stand for? (Other than some weird group in Ireland)
Hm yeah sorry, these ARE rough notes. Translation :
RedBaron, CSPVG and NMillar all spontanously broadcast their "likes/dislikes".
(also I suppose that cspvg stands for either the town or the mafia, but maybe we should ask him)
my name is catte
i touch your foods
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From United Kingdom
Posted December 29, 2013
Telika: Well, of course he has. Townie, neutral, or scum. I've tried to imagine what kind of consequences could be linked to a hammer, in each case.
Scum : A "non-read/flip" kill ? I don't expect something as radical as an additional nightkill or something.
Town : A supplementary info ? Flavour-able in terms of interrogation, or observation ?
Neutral : An individual victory condition (I would hardly care about that, I don't really see the point of neutral plays).
The most unsettling idea would be an "and then there were none" trick, a faked death, but I don't really see how this would play out in gameplay terms, or what/who it would benefit. If it's a scum lynch, though, I'd still be attentive to the following days' votecounts (or would vote for the victim once, just to be sure).
Still, if the agenda is scum, going full "let me hammer okay" would be quite ballsy. Especially as any weird effect would be pinned on him, and as a hammering could be achieved without warning. So, right now, I mostly see it safe-ish.
Ah yeah, well of course he has an agenda relating to the hammering thing but I meant something slightly broader also including the voting without explanation and so on. With the two of them together, it does rather look like he's trying to make himself suspicious. Scum : A "non-read/flip" kill ? I don't expect something as radical as an additional nightkill or something.
Town : A supplementary info ? Flavour-able in terms of interrogation, or observation ?
Neutral : An individual victory condition (I would hardly care about that, I don't really see the point of neutral plays).
The most unsettling idea would be an "and then there were none" trick, a faked death, but I don't really see how this would play out in gameplay terms, or what/who it would benefit. If it's a scum lynch, though, I'd still be attentive to the following days' votecounts (or would vote for the victim once, just to be sure).
Still, if the agenda is scum, going full "let me hammer okay" would be quite ballsy. Especially as any weird effect would be pinned on him, and as a hammering could be achieved without warning. So, right now, I mostly see it safe-ish.
Still your analysis is pretty good and you're right that it would be pretty damn ballsy as a scum move.
I more suspect him of being some kind of third party now which is why I unvoted, my last post is basically saying "I'm keeping an eye on you". Didn't Zchinque also admit to being the one whose name wasn't mentioned at the beginning or did I imagine that?
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From United Kingdom
Posted December 29, 2013
SirPrimalform: Didn't Zchinque also admit to being the one whose name wasn't mentioned at the beginning or did I imagine that?
You did not imagine it - http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_19_a_slalom_mafia/post65 Thanks for pointing it out. So to be double sure: we are 15 players, but 14 is named. Zchinque claims he is not named. That actually opens up some interesting questions for me. Need a little time to think.... I think.
Telika
Registered: Apr 2012
From Switzerland
Posted December 29, 2013
SirPrimalform: Didn't Zchinque also admit to being the one whose name wasn't mentioned at the beginning
Yes. If I'm not mistaken, this (and, yeah, the fact that Edie is not Eddie) solves both the Caroline Bianchi case and JMich's gender count, right ?
On one hand we had the issue of whether Caroline Bianchi could, or could not, be impersonated by a player, given that it is all a flashback narration from her - which implies that either she's alive at the end (a certitude no player can have) or she's impersonated (by that shifts the survival certitude to a player who's role could do that - what if the last player is a fat aged one-legged man).
On the other hand, JMich's says that we are 8 men and 8 women (am I correct, JMich, do you have the number eight, or only the "equality" ?).
If it's the case, then wiith 16 roles and 15 players we have :
Ladies :
1. (Caroline Bianchi - PC or NPC ?)
2. Harriet Franks
3. Frances Page
4. Constance Drabble
5. Prudence Eggars
6. Delilah Cattling
7. Rosemary Pollit
8. Edie Delaney
Gentlemen :
1. Gabriel Delaney
2. Peter Browning
3. Lawrence Birch
4. George Mariner
5. Christopher Sedgeworthy
6. Damian Hoarly
7. Bernie Von Moriz
8. ????
Zchinque would be the unnamed 8th man. No player would be Bianchi. Is this correct ?
Red_Baron
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Posted December 29, 2013
One unnamed entity mentioned in the beginning is the officer she is reporting to if I am correct.
Also thanks for clearing it up Telika - it was so confusing that I even confused a player name with some short form :P
However I should say I didn't spontaneously do it - I been doing it right from the first post I made :).
Also thanks for clearing it up Telika - it was so confusing that I even confused a player name with some short form :P
However I should say I didn't spontaneously do it - I been doing it right from the first post I made :).
Telika
Registered: Apr 2012
From Switzerland
Posted December 29, 2013
Red_Baron: One unnamed entity mentioned in the beginning is the officer she is reporting to if I am correct.
But I presume the absence of the officer, at this point. The OP is the game's aftermath, the game is about the people who were there before the arrival of the authorities. Red_Baron: However I should say I didn't spontaneously do it - I been doing it right from the first post I made :).
That's... that's... "spontaneous", in't it ? (I keep using that word, I think it means what I think it means.)
Zchinque
Antagonist
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From Norway
Posted December 29, 2013
I'm currently phoneposting, and probably will be for the next week or so, so quoting and stuff is a bit of a hassle. Anyways, my name is Kurt Pascal, so I am indeed the eighth man. Mentioning that mostly for posterity, as if anyone has any direct use of that, they'll likely have figured it out already.
And me hammering is not going to have an obvious effect on the game - it doesn't tamper with the lynch, prevent role info or any such thing.
:(@SPF for thinking I wouldn't do a ballsy play as scum.
And me hammering is not going to have an obvious effect on the game - it doesn't tamper with the lynch, prevent role info or any such thing.
:(@SPF for thinking I wouldn't do a ballsy play as scum.