You and CSPVG both being mafia is the only other explanation. I'm fairly convinced at this point that you're scum, but I'm not sure about CSPVG. I guess the last game did prove that there's such a thing as a mafia motivator (the wiki says they can have any alignment). Or as you say, Joe is mafia. Perhaps your vote is a bit of distancing between you both?

Ah, have you arrived at the same possible conclusion as me? Good job at finding something that sort of looks like CSPVG.

Why am i downplaying it?! Thats my whole reason for suspecting Joe! If we weren't at LYLO then I wouldn't necessarily expect Mafia jumping on him.

And - Me and CSPVG being Mafia the only other explanation - thats true, but does that not make my move highly risky, pointing all this out?

We need a good lynch tonight - we need to make sure all info is correct and out there. I'm fully prepared to do a mass claim, if needed.

You have been downplaying it. We are pretty much undoubtedly at LYLO and you say things like:

I'm not sure why but you seem to be saying that we're only doomed if there are two kills again. As I said before, if there are three mafia we won't make it to night if we lynch wrong.

Even if we lynch correctly it'll be game over if there are two night kills again.

Our hopes rest on lynching correctly and if we manage that, hoping that the double kill was some kind of one off or that there are only 2 mafia or that the scum are blocked.

Here's where I'm sitting.

I see the two votes for Joe. The logic I've been trying to apply puts me with both as scum. However, Robbeasy makes a relatively valid point. However, the fly in the ointment for me is amok's post restriction. Has it rendered him unable to change his vote so that's why the desperate attempt by Robbeasy?? I say this because I've not seen the "scumminess" in Joe so I've got a problem voting for him based solely on Robbeasy's line of logic. I'm not accusing amok of being scummy, I just don't see the logic.

And most importantly I don't want to be the one to screw this up.

[I]Remember the time town almost won except flubbucket screwed it up for all of us?[/I]

Nope not gonna happen. I also don't see two kills happening again. That would be just too overpowered...opinion of course.

Remember that time when flubbucket tried to post in italics?


I hate being so flippin' handsome!!


I guess to continue (ramble) I had commented earlier about Robbeasy, CSPVG, and gkaiser being a potential team. Since gkaiser hasn't voted does that rule him out?? I don't know. Is he waiting for the third vote so he can hammer? Again I'm driving myself nuts with the scenario!!!

When I throw in amok and his post restriction and the potential for him to not vote, well I start to pass out.

Perhaps I think too much.

Now this is our final hour
Let me be the voice in your strength and your choice
Let me simplify the rhyme just to amplify the noise
Try to amplify the times it, and multiply by six...
Teen million people, Are equal at this high pitch
Maybe we can reach alqueda through my speech
Let the president answer a higher anarchy
Strap him with an Ak-47, let him go, fight his own war
Let him impress daddy that way

Unvote flub

**SORRY OFF TOPIC**

I'm impressed with amok ability to communicate through this restriction. Sorry not sucking up AT ALL just impressed.


**ON TOPIC**

Okay now what to do. I can't read this crap anymore I'm going in circles. Booze...

fair enough.

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If CSVPG and Rob weren't mafia I could think of a reason why the mafia might not want to cause a quicklynch. I won't say it in case the mafia haven't thought of it yet. (A bluff??)

I reckon Amok is town. I reckon CSPVG and gkaiser are probably alright. Sprimal Flub and Rob I reckon make the most likely scumteam.

Looking at the votes it doesn't really work. I guess it's not as simple as that....

I'ld like to hear from CSPVG.

Whoops, typed 651 into that quote in my last post instead of 650. It was Robb who said that, not Flub.

Reasons I think Robbeasy is scum:

1. Hammered JMich immediately after his claim without giving anyone a chance to discuss the new information. Vitek requested that no one hammer until JMich claimed, which Rob honoured in the most literal way possible. My interpretation of Vitek's request included discussing the claim. For the record, I would have kept my vote on JMich, but it's still really anti-town to deny us chance to discuss it.

2. Weird thing:
Why is he automatically assuming the mafia managed two kills? In the light of the scummy hammer this really seems like a slip to me. It seems like inside knowledge.

3. What seem to me to be attempts to downplay the severity of the current situation. There's a lot of (interpolated) 'If there are two kills tonight then we're in trouble!' when that's irrelevant if we don't lynch scum (assuming there are 3, 2 would be a pretty small team for 11 players especially considering there has been a fair number of power roles already).


Current expected scum team: Rob, Joe and gkaiser (or CSPVG instead of Joe).

At the moment the most town feeling player is, for me, Amok. He's also doing a pretty damn good job of communicating using song lyrics.

Rush out, out from the center
Not like one side is any better
Stand up as they've been preaching
My best theory is already in me
(already in me)

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You set the trap trap
Instead
You got me
You got me wet
You call the shots
That makes me hot
Well, do you love?
No, you love me not
Well, do you love me?
No, you love me not

????

I"m thinking CSPVG IN;lkstead of joe cuause I hanvent hearsd from him in flike forever.

Okhay this took m elllike 10 minutes so there. B*(ut It masde me laurgh so shut up and eat mej.

Man I hopoe I can votees.

vote;CSEPVG

I reallly thouthg t obout htis anhd I m thinkin he's a scummy guty. It' s either that or I"m drunk, welrll I"m rpretty sure about thea last apart.

Scurey it I need ot go to bed becusr I hav eto work tonighti . Manf i hope I don't screnw this up.

Stumble in the alley
Countin' all the stars
The blue lights shinin' and they twinkle off the walls
Stumble down the hallway
In a crooked crawl
The red light shinin', how they twinkle off the walls

That little hand means "stop"
That little man means "walk"
Cross when you want
You're gonna go to jail, you're gonna sleep it off
It goes: ball to ball, police call the ER
Run block to block
Go to jail, sleep it off

:)

I do apologise for not posting in three days, I didn't think that it had been all that long.

Firstly, Unvote: JoeSapphire. Contrary to his assertion in post 643, I did not vote for him due to the possible vig or what ever we may have( although I do suspect him of having some sort of role), but rather because he had not posted since the start of this game-day.

Secondly, from to address something I should have awhile ago( this being prompted by Joe's mention of it in post 631): The second bit of flavour seemed insignificant to me, as I am still very much in the mentality of our last game. I thought it was just an odd bit of flavour I'd received, perhaps something we'd all gotten.

Also, as and aside, the possibility of a poisoner does not make sense with the flavour give for either of last night's deaths. One of our players( Darko, I would assume), was thrown overboard, as he seems to simply have vanished. The other death( Vitek), resulted from what seems to be a brutal beating and a slit throat.

Continuing this aside, I had forgotten how violent the flavour for night one's kill was. I had been operating under the assumption that the disappearances over the side were the doing of the mafia, and that the violent deaths had been caused by a vigilante or serial killer. So I'm rather at a loss about whom I suspect of being a vig or serial killer.

Moving on: Amok gets some town points, at least in my book, for making a valid attempt to communicate with us using song lyrics. I would, however, like to ask him to answer the first question Joe posed him in post 631.

Furthermore, Robbeasy has been acting suspect of late. In fact, starting with yesterday's hammer, he's been sketchy for quite some time. I do, however, find his," The mafia could have quicklynched Joe, so why haven't they?" logic to be, for the most part, convincing. I would, however, first like to have more conversation before we lynch someone.

Lastly, does anyone think that a mass claim would be of any benefit at this point?