bazilisek: 3) And now it's time to go for the offensive. I have noticed a few rather suspicious things, and want to get them out in the open.
The question has been raised: how is it possible I am still alive? When this day started, I was eager to see how long it was going to take before someone floated this argument. First came Robbeasy (#835), wondering why people are willing to believe I am town (notice it's the same Robbeasy who kept saying the reason for the Rodzaju lynch was to confirm his information). He developed it further in #843 and himself retracted it in #863, so in came TwilightBard in #866, finally saying what I wanted to hear: "I think the final straw for me in believing that Baz is town, is a fairly simple one. He's a CLAIMED DOCTOR since Day 1 and still moving around."
Except that it's the final straw, and not my only argument. If it's my only argument then you have something here.
One of the biggest scumtells I have is from you for the simple reason of claiming Doctor, unpressured as you were. The post you quoted from Rod when you claimed, wasn't anything that would lead to pressure, and like I've repeatedly said, You went from 'possible power role' to 'no doubt in anyone's mind that you're one of the most important power roles in this game' [Post 227 for Baz's claim]
The information wasn't all out in the open, in fact it was fairly muddy because of how Rodzaju was dancing around it, trying not to spill the beans while letting you know that he knew. You let the cat out of the bag and then painted yourself as the victim this entire time. You had a perfect target to potentially block a nightkill, and you let yourself out into the open more then anyone can do.
You jumped right back into it after Day 2 started, asking about what your 'sanity' was from Rod, which seems more like an attempt to distance yourself from what happened to Joe, probably because you had him targetted. When he suggested that
I'm going to stop, because to me there's more, and I don't have a minute to build anything completely, just trying to find moments to type out this defense.
bazilisek: Want to know why this argument is more likely to be presented by scum? I'll let TwilightBard himself explain, from way, way back (#165): "It seems like a ploy to draw attention to other people, and is dangerous even if he is town, because the mafia can easily just ignore him to give the illusion that he should be lynched". This is absolutely classic scum play, as is, in fact, the whole hunt on jefequeso (which was, incidentally primarily led by TwilightBard and Robbeasy).
And I do understand that, but I believe that hiding honest thoughts can be a bad thing as it leaves nothing to really draw on. When I responded to it though, I was explaining how come I DIDN'T vote for you, the full quote explained that I was giving the benefit of the doubt at that point in time as Jefe's position was bothering me far more.
Oh, and as for aiming at Jefe, you had him high on your list of suspects and targetted him for your ability to roleblock him, so obviously the thought was in your mind too, I simply made the choice to vocalize what others were thinking.
bazilisek: No, I don't think it's dangerous. I had various smaller reasons. The thing with a paranoid doc/jailkeeper is that you can play it offensively or defensively. I had you high on my list of suspects, so I thought there was a chance that you are scum and that you would be performing the kill tonight -- that was the offensive aspect.
Oh, and as it for being a Scum only tactic...Rod brought it up at the beginning of day 2.
Rodzaju: I would also theorise that you weren't killed because:
A) the mafia wanted to cast suspicion on you / us.
B) the other doc protected you.
bazilisek: Two more arguments of TB's re: my role I'll deal with as briefly as I can: for #866 and Rodzaju's contradiction in saying I am/am not town, please reread Rodzaju's #768 in which he confirms what we all knew: that he had an agenda and was willing to lie/deliberately misinterpret to push it ("I did try to suggest a lynch of Angelo BEFORE outing myself. This is why I was suggesting he may be scum.") -- in this context, also note the last line of his lynch in #814 ("4 people pffft" Bazilisek says before giving Rodzaju one last kick before leaving) and the curious fact that the other two people he was supposedly backing up do not appear in the flavour
at all.
If Rod had the agenda to lynch you, then I don't think he would have so easily given you a chance to claim in such a way that would make an impression on everyone. Methinks that his agenda might have been use you to strengthen his position so he could strike at the case he can more easily make. The fact that he lied calls into question even him calling you town in the beginning,
bazilisek: And as for #895 ("[baz]'s Mafia, which is possible, as the doctor part seems to be in our heads"), I will again refer to the lynch flavour (#814) which describes me as "Alcadas top surgeon".
This is grasping for straws honestly, it's truly twisting my words and quoting just enough to let you build a case.
I never doubted you as a doctor, but everyone seems to quickly forget that your ability can be used offensively as well as a roleblocker. They see the doctor but don't see the paranoid part that leads you to roleblocking.
As for the lynch flavour, the same email that mentioned you also said "They are both no longer fit for their purpose and need to be replaced with someone more adequate". I guess you can call it a confirmation, but it sure doesn't paint you in a good light either.
