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Posted November 26, 2011
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nmillar: No, it doesn't. Rodzaju could know your role, but not your alignment. He's assumed the paranoid doctor / jailkeeper role is a town one, but this is not necessarily the case.
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bazilisek: Hmm, you have a point there. This, however, only applies if there are multiple mafias, otherwise the mafia really has no use for a doctor... But yes, it is a theoretical possibility, I'll give you that.
But if the "lone wolf" theory is correct, this doesn't make sense... Why would a 1-man mafia be a doctor? Mafia doctor only applies if there are multiple person multiple mafias.

... wait a second. Did your own theory just neatly confirm you as town? o.O
Posted November 26, 2011
Hmmmmmm, I have a theory, but I sorta need a hinge for it.

Rod, I think you said you didn't have alignments, but I can't be certain and I can't find it, can you clarify this for me?
Posted November 26, 2011
I do not have alignments.
I have character names, Roles & flavour expaining how I know these people.
I do believe that Baz is town.
Of the others, I believe #2 is town.
#3 I had assumed was town, but looking at it objectively, they could go either way.
#4 I suspect is likely to be scum.
Posted November 27, 2011
Ok then, with that said.

Right now, I'm very suspicious of the people who are coming out and pretty much pushing multiple Mafia as our primary setup. Why? Well, the main reason right now being that it's muddying the water, a lot. You can't trust that the townies are the only ones doing honest scumhunting. You can't trust that the guy leading the lynch is town, it's just a huge barrel of wine that the only people capable of supporting at this point are Mafia.

Now, I'm not going to say that there isn't a possibility, or that we only definitely have a single Mafia, but I think our focus should be scumhunting. When we have proof of more then one mafia, then we should look into it deeper.

I also thought about Baz's role and it being a mafia role. I think, if we look, it's very possible to have a paranoid doctor be in the mafia, since they act like a Roleblocker as well as a doctor.

I'm going to unvote Jefe because I don't think it's going to get anywhere. I need a bit of time to think about who I'm most suspicious of since right now I have absolutely 0 town reads, and few neutral reads.
Posted November 27, 2011
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TwilightBard: /snip
Now, I'm not going to say that there isn't a possibility, or that we only definitely have a single Mafia, but I think our focus should be scumhunting. When we have proof of more then one mafia, then we should look into it deeper. //snipsnip
At the risk of shooting up your suspicions list, I think the reference to the "Shattered Hand" clan in the NK flavour is what people are taking as proof of there being more than one mafia, or at least more than one anti-town faction.

But I do agree, I already mentioned I'm not sure how this knowledge will realistically impact our ability to scumhunt...

Hmm. It was Robbeasy who pulled up this theory again in #631 by asking Baz outright if he agreed with the multiple mafia scenario, after asking for precision on his "in all probability there's at least three of them" quotation...
Posted November 27, 2011
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NotFrenchYet: Hmm. It was Robbeasy who pulled up this theory again in #631 by asking Baz outright if he agreed with the multiple mafia scenario, after asking for precision on his "in all probability there's at least three of them" quotation...
The problem is, it's been brought up so many times over and over that it's hard to piece together when one discussion of it ends and another begins. I have my views on it, and with it being possible, I can see people wanting to try to figure out every angle. Of course, I'll have to save posting those for when I wake up and finish things I need to do.
Posted November 27, 2011
I have a sub lined up for Quad. He will be replaced monday if he doesnt post
Posted November 27, 2011
Only posting to keep from lurking. I'm feeling the pangs of my noobishness :), and am finding it a little hard to follow everything.
Posted November 28, 2011
Hi - sorry about my extended absence, I've been getting a little caught up in university work. I've still got until the end of this week until my assessments are handed in, so all in all that substitute player would come in useful.

Apologies again.
Posted November 28, 2011
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TwilightBard: The problem is, it's been brought up so many times over and over that it's hard to piece together when one discussion of it ends and another begins. I have my views on it, and with it being possible, I can see people wanting to try to figure out every angle. Of course, I'll have to save posting those for when I wake up and finish things I need to do.
Well, the multiple mafia theory is interesting because it's plausible when the flavour from the opening post is considered.

I've also been kind of busy over the weekend, so I'll catch up with what happened over the last little bit later tonight.
Posted November 28, 2011
Oooof! Heavy weekend again, just checking in....

I see Baz has me in his sights - a regular occurance going back over many Mafia games! I will answer that later when I get some time, I have plenty to say but no time to say it at the moment!
Posted November 28, 2011
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QuadrAlien: Hi - sorry about my extended absence, I've been getting a little caught up in university work. I've still got until the end of this week until my assessments are handed in, so all in all that substitute player would come in useful.

Apologies again.
Not a problem, Red Baron is very eager to play.

Thanks for playing
Posted November 28, 2011
Should we really be worrying about the possibility of multiple mafia right now? Seems kinda useless since we haven't even seen if the next nk has a different flavor.
Posted November 28, 2011
I do agree that all the theorising about multiple mafias is inherently scummy, even when done by townies. It's sidetracking us, and we cannot really afford that.
Posted November 28, 2011
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bazilisek: I do agree that all the theorising about multiple mafias is inherently scummy, even when done by townies. It's sidetracking us, and we cannot really afford that.
Agreed. But I will chip in with my 2 cents too. I don't there are multiple mafias. It doesn't make sense mechanics-wise. It's only 16 player game and if there were 3 mafias, each one can have only 2 members max (assuming they would be of same size). Also to balance kills each one would have only 1 kill per 3 nights and it is serious setback as it severely cripples mafia. Mafia without kill (or with so crippled kill) is like mason group with added requirement to eliminate 14(!) players. I don't think it's likely.
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