It seems that you're using an outdated browser. Some things may not work as they should (or don't work at all).
We suggest you upgrade newer and better browser like: Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer or Opera

×
avatar
Rodzaju: I am not allowed to tell you your sanity, under threat of modkill.
However, barring a really fucked up set of coincidences, you did not kill anyone.
The fact that you asked the question makes me think you protected Joe.
From this I gather you did not expect me to kill anyone?
avatar
Rodzaju: I am not allowed to tell you your sanity, under threat of modkill.
However, barring a really fucked up set of coincidences, you did not kill anyone.
The fact that you asked the question makes me think you protected Joe.
avatar
bazilisek: From this I gather you did not expect me to kill anyone?
No I did not.
It is theoretically possible, but extremely unlikely.
avatar
Rodzaju: No I did not.
It is theoretically possible, but extremely unlikely.
Here's the wiki. I do not see a sanity there that could be described this way.

Insane Doctor = theoretically possible that he could kill, but not "extremely unlikely"
Paranoid Doctor = does not kill under any circumstances
Naïve Doctor = does not kill under any circumstances
Weak Doctor = can suicide relatively easily, does not kill under any circumstances
CPR Doctor = kills more often than protects

Your comments on that, Rod?
avatar
Rodzaju: No I did not.
It is theoretically possible, but extremely unlikely.
avatar
bazilisek: Here's the wiki. I do not see a sanity there that could be described this way.

Insane Doctor = theoretically possible that he could kill, but not "extremely unlikely"
Paranoid Doctor = does not kill under any circumstances
Naïve Doctor = does not kill under any circumstances
Weak Doctor = can suicide relatively easily, does not kill under any circumstances
CPR Doctor = kills more often than protects

Your comments on that, Rod?
The relevant point you seem to have missed is:
"barring a really fucked up set of coincidences"
I was looking at potential consequences of you actions, rather than taking you in isolation.
In the list above, look at those that include the phrase "does not kill under any circumstances"
avatar
Rodzaju: The relevant point you seem to have missed is:
"barring a really fucked up set of coincidences"
I was looking at potential consequences of you actions, rather than taking you in isolation.
In the list above, look at those that include the phrase "does not kill under any circumstances"
I'm not sure I can imagine a theoretical scenario in which someone gets killed in consequence of a doc protection.

Nevertheless, I'm letting you off the hook for now. So far, your claims seem to check out with the information I have. But I still have my eye on you, for dragging the whole bloody thing in the open in the first place.

Anyways, Joe's dead, huh? I did not expect that.
It's probably not a good idea to say this, but I might as well say it before someone else does. I think it's possible Joe was targeted in order to cast suspicion on me, as I had a vote on him for pretty much all of day one (it was an RVS vote and I wasn't actually around for most of the day and just forgot to remove it).
I realise this will probably cast suspicion on me, but better I point this out than someone else.
I reckon it was Orry, getting revenge for game 8!!
;-}
avatar
Robbeasy: Hang on a minute here.....

from the Mafia Wiki - LOVER definition...

'Lovers are players who are linked to each other. If one Lover dies, the Lover(s) linked to it die simultaneously'

So where is the other Lover death? The Flavour tells us Joe was bumped off, so according to the role definition, someone else should also have died??

Any chance of clarification here, MOD? Or anyone? Is there another definition for the LOVER role?
I can clear that up. I was Joe's lover. Instead of committing suicide, my role has now changed slightly to reflect my grief. X is obviously adding a bunch of twists to the game. Either that or he's just being kind to a new player :3.
avatar
jefequeso: I can clear that up. I was Joe's lover. Instead of committing suicide, my role has now changed slightly to reflect my grief. X is obviously adding a bunch of twists to the game. Either that or he's just being kind to a new player :3.
I expected this considering your reaction.
From some lovers I have seen is it you were neutral and became town? I saw it somewhere. If one of them is lynched other one joins mafia and if one of them is NK'ed the other one joins town.
avatar
jefequeso: I can clear that up. I was Joe's lover. Instead of committing suicide, my role has now changed slightly to reflect my grief. X is obviously adding a bunch of twists to the game. Either that or he's just being kind to a new player :3.
avatar
Vitek: I expected this considering your reaction.
From some lovers I have seen is it you were neutral and became town? I saw it somewhere. If one of them is lynched other one joins mafia and if one of them is NK'ed the other one joins town.
Or if we have a multi-mafia setup perhaps they join a different mafia in order to get revenge?
avatar
Robbeasy: Hang on a minute here.....

from the Mafia Wiki - LOVER definition...

'Lovers are players who are linked to each other. If one Lover dies, the Lover(s) linked to it die simultaneously'

So where is the other Lover death? The Flavour tells us Joe was bumped off, so according to the role definition, someone else should also have died??

Any chance of clarification here, MOD? Or anyone? Is there another definition for the LOVER role?
avatar
jefequeso: I can clear that up. I was Joe's lover. Instead of committing suicide, my role has now changed slightly to reflect my grief. X is obviously adding a bunch of twists to the game. Either that or he's just being kind to a new player :3.
What is it with all the claims in this game! We've only just started day 2!!

From the wiki again -

' It is not at all implausible to have Lovers in Town-scum pairs'

And you seem SO keen to let everyone know you were his Lover, Jef...

I like Viteks scenario, however. Especially as Jef admits to his ROLE changing slightly, not his powers.
Were I Mafia, I wouldn't be so stupid as to announce to everyone "hey, look at me!" I'd have just kept quiet and let everyone be confused about the lover role.

I just figure the less confusion we have about things the better.
You know, the fact that on night 1 the Mafia targeted a lover is a little suspicious. It could just be an unlikely conisidence, or they could know more about us than we think.
Okay, so both my main suspects turned out to be town... Great... Will have to reread the entire thread once or twice I think. On stuff that has happened today, however, there are two things. Vitek's post - he said he expected jefe to be Joe's lover simply because of the outburst that was five words long, and two of those words were identical? I'm probably just nitpicking here, but it's some what a far fetched conclusion to arrive at.

Secondly - Jefe, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?! Why would you roleclaim without any shred of preasure on you?! First baz randomly claims, then you?! Seriously, what the fuck? And dampening the confusion - you hardly did that. Yes, you MAY (Provided you are not lying) have answered a question and prevented random theories, but that is all. All that could have confused us by Joe's death would be who the other lover is, and here you go jumping out with it right away - you could have used it strategically - you just gave information to the mafia that you could have kept to yourself, in order to lure mafia into a falseclaim? (Do not put it past the mafia, you never know what they might do in desperation - plus, Joe being the nightkill seems very random)
avatar
Damnation: Okay, so both my main suspects turned out to be town... Great... Will have to reread the entire thread once or twice I think. On stuff that has happened today, however, there are two things. Vitek's post - he said he expected jefe to be Joe's lover simply because of the outburst that was five words long, and two of those words were identical? I'm probably just nitpicking here, but it's some what a far fetched conclusion to arrive at.

Secondly - Jefe, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?! Why would you roleclaim without any shred of preasure on you?! First baz randomly claims, then you?! Seriously, what the fuck? And dampening the confusion - you hardly did that. Yes, you MAY (Provided you are not lying) have answered a question and prevented random theories, but that is all. All that could have confused us by Joe's death would be who the other lover is, and here you go jumping out with it right away - you could have used it strategically - you just gave information to the mafia that you could have kept to yourself, in order to lure mafia into a falseclaim? (Do not put it past the mafia, you never know what they might do in desperation - plus, Joe being the nightkill seems very random)
Preventing random theories was exactly what I wanted to do, and besides which...why should I wait until someone randomly decides to start pressuring me? I have nothing to hide, and at this point revealing that I was Joe's lover doesn't give the Mafia anything. It only helps the Town. If I actually had any powers, I would want to keep silent, and on the previous day I wanted to keep from making any sort of connection between Joe and I since I was under the impression that we would be a good target for the Mafia (as 2 free kills). But as it is, the only "useful" thing I can do is save the Town from wasting time trying to figure out why only one lover died. The fact that X did something like this suggests that there are a lot of other little "twists" running around in other people's roles.

Or, you could just believe I'm Mafia, but that's not going to get us anywhere.