Rodzaju: As opposed to among the main suspects for hiding in the dark corners of the thread....
Oh yes, totally. I merely meant I'm sure I will receive tons of flak.
My reads are, however:
Town: None of you
Leaning town: Rodzaju
Uncertain: Bazilisek, TwilightBard, Cruward_darkeyes, jefequeso
Leaning Mafia: itai.sharim, QuadrAlien, Orryyrro, Grynn, Sir Primalform, Vitek
Mafia: JoeSapphire, nmillar
Grynn, Sir Primalform, Vitek, QuadrAlien and Orryyrro have been placed where they have due to inactivity, lurker and all that.
Cruward_darkeyes is inexperienced, and it strongly shows, but who's not to say it's a ploy to throw us off guard? jefequeso also appears strongly inexperienced, but what he tends to say gives me somewhat of a town vibe at times, but not enough to make me think he is town.
TwilightBard, the only thing I have been able to pick up on about him was his desire to skip RVS, which isn't a whole lot to go for. Consider this that I don't pay all that much attention to him, as he hardly is in the limelight - a mistake on my part, perhaps, but either way, it's there.
Then there's five people left, Rodzaju, Bazilisek, itai.sharim, JoeSapphire and nmillar.
Let's start with itai.sharim first:
He clearly has experience with this type of game, no question there, even if this is the first time he plays it over a forum. This doesn't make me suspecious of him, however. Rather his ability to pop into nearly every discussion without really receiving much flak, and yet never, as with most people, never weigh the possibilities, but rather just sling them out. He has a tendency to ask rather good questions, however, but did so during a time where his questions would only further implicate certain people and would in no way be useful to town. (If you start the whole "us" vs "town" debacle again, I will come to your house and tear your balls off, as I perceive this as purely a matter of definition and up to each and every person's way of expressing himself)
This is mainly why I think he's leaning mafia, rather than actually reading him as mafia - I mgiht be completely off in my interpretation of him, after all.
Bazilisek - I want to perceive as town, but, well, there's a strong chance he's lying. There's a chance the entire friction between him and Rodzaju is just a mafia ploy to spread extreme confusion. I know he mentioned he was not capable of such, but he is either being modest or lying - baz is someone I perceive as smart enough to work something like this out with Rodzaju, no question.
Then there's the claim as doctor in post 227. This was also the first post where baz actually admitted to the name mentioned by Rod. Even worse, he made a roleclaim, and a powerrole at that. This claim was COMPLETELY uncalled for, and his reason for doing it was extremely appalling, and I honestly found it slightly insulting - "because it's already out there"? No, it wasn't, there was a name floating about that was never proven, there were theories by people who were not Rodzaju that Rodzaju might know of power roles, no confirmation to this, other than Rod having information, there was no proof that Rod had correct information, or if he was just throwing out random names. No proof, and yet you went ahead and roleclaimed unprovoked! The topic had even rested for quite a while! And funny thing - Ubivis claimed doctor in mafia 2 as well, and he receive insane amounts of flak for doing it unprovoked, but not baz? That's poor, you guys let slips past you like water through a net...
I think post 231 by baz has been in some discussion (The standard doctor vs POSSIBLY quack), but never really the determination baz had when he accused Rod of lying.
I'd also like to bring up the point baz makes in post 251, that we have been pushed into a rabbit whole we cannot get out off - a rabbit hole that was dug by Rod, but we were very much pushed into it by baz and nmillar to a certain degree. People kept pushing Rod for information, so obviously we're bound to end up in a shithole when the information is best left unlearnt...
One last bit, post 141 seems like a desperate attempt to defend yourself, baz.
JoeSapphire ends up on my list of people I'm getting a pretty strong mafia read on. People mention he has stepped into debates, attempting to protect Rod. Ei. defending what looks to be the losing partner, thereby creating a potential bond between them, so when Rod dies and possibly flips Town, Joe would appear as having tried to protect a townie, making himself look good.
This isn't my main irk, though.
I think Joe carries a certain tone in his posts when the whole baz/Rod thing escalates and baz roleclaims. Joe seems too... excited about this revelation, and his posts carry a certain amused hint, as if he finds the entire situation funny. Further, he stays a lot in the background, posting only posts that in and off themselves contain somewhat little contribution after baz claimed. I think he was happy a doctor, no matter what kind (And if baz truly IS a doctor), got outed.
Rodzaju I find as unlucky in his situations as he always is, but he has performed very foolish things. The first was outing the names, even if they were false, especially with his rather poor argument of being at L-4. Then he further claimed there was another doctor, and that the second name he has mentioned is someone town does not want dead at all. Very, very poor moves. Though this has been the entirety of the discussion surrounding him. If he is telling the truth, then I stronlgy doubt he is mafia, and at this stage, I'm inclined to believe him. The main reason is actually by somewhat metagaming, which I will not elaborate further (Other than it is nested in his playstyle and how he phrases himself). Of course, he could be lying, and as mentioned, it could all be a ploy by both him and bazilisek. But I'm more inclined to believe Rod more than baz due to some of the slips baz has made (I am not saying one being truthful excludes the other from being so). So yeah, I see Rod as one who made terrible plays during the game and not really anything else. My opinion can change, however, and knowing Rod, it possibly will :p
nmillar, however, is probably one people are wondering why I put on my list of mafia reads. Firstly, he seemed eager to prod Rod for soem information - extorting it for his own benefit, but when Rod exclaimed wish to drop it, he stopped, attempting to mask his desire for said information. Further, he explicitly bites into the "baz is a quack who has 100% kill chance" without any proof other than the idea having been put out. He also appears very silent after baz claimed. I realise the "silent" argument I have used is hypocritical, but I have had no time at all to post these theories before, and nmillar have disappeared without much explanation.
This last bit is post 39. He clearly states there are more than one mafia. He doesn't say the flavour indicates it, but does quote it so it appears he has a publicly founded reason for his statement, but his statement is clearly "There are more mafia", not "The flavour indicates there are more mafia". I read this as a strong scumtell as to me it appears he most certainly knows there are more mafia in this game.
Lastly, nmillar never voted in RVS, and as itai.shiram mentioned, mafia are less likely to randomly vote in RVS than town - this is a minor detail, but in conjunction with the rest, I think this fits too well in.
Therefore,
vote nmillar If you disagree with me or think I have a massive flaw in my logic, do feel free to point it out :p