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so correct me if im wrong Rodzaju is implying that bazilisek is a doctor with a variation sutch as a Insane Doctor or Naïve Doctor if so how would he know that?
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bazilisek: [ Quite honestly, I have no idea. The reason I refuse to believe him is that I've either been in or read quite a few games on this site that Rodzaju was in, and he never did something as blatantly stupid as this.
You don't remember the farce that resulted from me claiming Bin in game 4?
That started out as a (i thought) fairly harmless attempt to get things moving.
I guess I should have learned...

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Vitek: He has to have über super powerful role if he is willing to out doctor to save himself.
If he won't get counter-claimed soon we can presume baz is mooost likely not lying.
I don't have an uber role.
I just know things about people.
Things that I believe they don't know about themselves.
Baz is not lying, but it seems that he doesn't know everything....
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bazilisek: [ Quite honestly, I have no idea. The reason I refuse to believe him is that I've either been in or read quite a few games on this site that Rodzaju was in, and he never did something as blatantly stupid as this.
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Rodzaju: You don't remember the farce that resulted from me claiming Bin in game 4?
That started out as a (i thought) fairly harmless attempt to get things moving.
I guess I should have learned...

your confusing the hell out of me

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Vitek: He has to have über super powerful role if he is willing to out doctor to save himself.
If he won't get counter-claimed soon we can presume baz is mooost likely not lying.
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Rodzaju: I don't have an uber role.
I just know things about people.
Things that I believe they don't know about themselves.
Baz is not lying, but it seems that he doesn't know everything....
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Cruward_Darkeyes: so correct me if im wrong Rodzaju is implying that bazilisek is a doctor with a variation sutch as a Insane Doctor or Naïve Doctor if so how would he know that?
You've got it.
I'm not allowed to specifiy which variation though.
Oooh my mister Darkeyes! You need to read the mafia wiki or get the mod to give you a more throrough outline of the game.

PREEDIT - yeah you've had it explained by five other people and you've read all about it on the wiki but I'll leave it in anyway

Doctors are a basic role in mafia games - at night they pick a player to protect and that player won't die if someone tries to kill them. They are usually town, but in setups with more than one mafia family there can be a mafia doctor. Does your flavour leave any doubt as to Bazil's alignment Zaju?


As I see it Rodzaju referring to the Town WAS meaningless and IS meaningless. At the time it was the hot topic of the day, and Robbeasy was asking people for their opinions on it - mine was that it was meaningless.
Lynching people for very little reason is dangerous so pointing out flawed logic is in the interests of the town. (I use the phrase "the town" here, as my sentiments are generic and don't refer solely to this game)

I still think we should ignore both Bazilisek and Rodzaju and see what the night can reveal to us. There will be time to lynch them later, when it might be more apparent whether or not they're lying.
I'm inclined to believe we have two true claims here.

Lynching either of them just because they are the ones who have all eyes on them would be a mistake - there is more can be done this day (but maybe no more people claim eh?)

Is that you there Vitek? Subtly calling for a counter claim? Yeah I thought it was. Vote Vitek
uhh woops i kinda messd up my last post sorry for being a noob anyway i was saying Rodzaju is confusing me a whole but tone
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JoeSapphire: Oooh my mister Darkeyes! You need to read the mafia wiki or get the mod to give you a more throrough outline of the game.

PREEDIT - yeah you've had it explained by five other people and you've read all about it on the wiki but I'll leave it in anyway

Doctors are a basic role in mafia games - at night they pick a player to protect and that player won't die if someone tries to kill them. They are usually town, but in setups with more than one mafia family there can be a mafia doctor. Does your flavour leave any doubt as to Bazil's alignment Zaju?


As I see it Rodzaju referring to the Town WAS meaningless and IS meaningless. At the time it was the hot topic of the day, and Robbeasy was asking people for their opinions on it - mine was that it was meaningless.
Lynching people for very little reason is dangerous so pointing out flawed logic is in the interests of the town. (I use the phrase "the town" here, as my sentiments are generic and don't refer solely to this game)

I still think we should ignore both Bazilisek and Rodzaju and see what the night can reveal to us. There will be time to lynch them later, when it might be more apparent whether or not they're lying.
I'm inclined to believe we have two true claims here.

Lynching either of them just because they are the ones who have all eyes on them would be a mistake - there is more can be done this day (but maybe no more people claim eh?)

Is that you there Vitek? Subtly calling for a counter claim? Yeah I thought it was. Vote Vitek
yeah sorry im brand new to this and iv been lurking heaps and i figured it was time i tryd to actually do something even if i didn't fully understand all that was going on
Post edited November 07, 2011 by Cruward_Darkeyes
Ah you can't post twice in succession like that! Leave ten minutes between each post or it marks it as edited and we can't tell if you've deleted something!
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Rodzaju: I don't have an uber role.
I just know things about people.
Things that I believe they don't know about themselves.
Baz is not lying, but it seems that he doesn't know everything....
If you're right, then the only excuse, and I do mean the only excuse I would accept for outing me for no reason at all would be if I am one of them quack doctors, and as such basically useless. The flavour I have, however, does not really agree with that. I'm tired and overworked, yes, but I am an experienced medical practitioner.
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Rodzaju: I don't have an uber role.
I just know things about people.
Things that I believe they don't know about themselves.
Baz is not lying, but it seems that he doesn't know everything....
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bazilisek: If you're right, then the only excuse, and I do mean the only excuse I would accept for outing me for no reason at all would be if I am one of them quack doctors, and as such basically useless. The flavour I have, however, does not really agree with that. I'm tired and overworked, yes, but I am an experienced medical practitioner.
Tired...
Overworked....
Stressed.....
Maybe a bit rushed & not careful enough, or maybe too careful & getting in your own way...
Is this really helpful?

and I forgot to unvote before so Unvote Orryyrro. Hopefully that won't cause a problem.
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Rodzaju: Tired...
Overworked....
Stressed.....
Maybe a bit rushed & not careful enough, or maybe too careful & getting in your own way...
Oh, and also: if you are not able to share this information, then what are you good for, exactly?
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JoeSapphire: Is this really helpful?
I don't know. But we're too far gone down this particular rabbit hole to ignore it, don't you think?
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bazilisek: If you're right, then the only excuse, and I do mean the only excuse I would accept for outing me for no reason at all would be if I am one of them quack doctors, and as such basically useless. The flavour I have, however, does not really agree with that. I'm tired and overworked, yes, but I am an experienced medical practitioner.
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Rodzaju: Tired...
Overworked....
Stressed.....
Maybe a bit rushed & not careful enough, or maybe too careful & getting in your own way...
how do you know all this?
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JoeSapphire: Is that you there Vitek? Subtly calling for a counter claim? Yeah I thought it was. Vote Vitek
Uh... yes, I am. You don't think he should be counter-claimed if he is not doctor?
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bazilisek: Oh, and also: if you are not able to share this information, then what are you good for, exactly?
I cannot say that you are ....... Doc.
That doesn't mean we can't work together to outwit the mod....

Also bear in mind that you are not the only person I have info on.
So we're trying to guess his thing. Is he a paranoid doctor IE jailkeeper?

We suspect that there are multiple mafia families, and we're pretty certain that Bazil is a modified doctor - it's a fair possibility we have more than one doctor anyway so it might not be counterclaiming it could just be mass claiming which I imagine to be a bad idea on the first day.