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bazilisek: While throwing some of his knowledge out in the open for everyone to see. This is a behaviour I intensely dislike, and Rodzaju is no greenhorn, so he knows what he's doing. I don't like this. No, I don't like this at all.
Well, you wouldn't, would you Mr Walters?

Please, just let it drop.
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grynn: Forgive my good heart nmillar :(. I just don't wanna see anyone die before the real deal begins, no matter if it's towny or scum.
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Rodzaju: Why would you not want to see scum die?

Unvote Nmillar; Vote Grynn
Who is scum?
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Rodzaju: Please, just let it drop.
Let me remind you it was you who opened this can of worms in the first place. And now you want to pretend it never happened. I have no idea what you're trying to achieve here.
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itai.sharim: I was going to suggest Rodzaju share his knowledge with the rest of us. But, as he stated mafia should definitely be deprived of such info
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bazilisek: While throwing some of his knowledge out in the open for everyone to see. This is a behaviour I intensely dislike, and Rodzaju is no greenhorn, so he knows what he's doing. I don't like this. No, I don't like this at all.
I don't think the knowledge he shared put the town in danger. However, he did reveal he possesses more knowledge compared to regular town members, which turns him into a nice target for the mafia.
I think we should ask ourselves whether this information should go with Rodzaju to the grave. Thoughts?
Rod, I'dat least like to know what you expected to achive. Have you wanted to save yourself from lynch by outing some knowledge, have you tried to contact those players because...hmmm... you wanted them to save you, was it to share knowledge before your "inevitable" lynch (while being at L-4) or is there some other reason?

How can you want us now to just drop it? If you want people to ignore you shouldn't bring it up in first place.
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itai.sharim: I don't think the knowledge he shared put the town in danger.
You may think that, but you don't know that. No one of us can actually know that, as no one knows what kinds of roles are floating around except the mod, and there are far too many possibilities to try and guess anything at this stage.

As I kept repeating over and over again in M8, giving out information for free in this game is always stupid. Let me add that in some cases, it is also foolhardy and potentially very dangerous.
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itai.sharim: However, he did reveal he possesses more knowledge compared to regular town members, which turns him into a nice target for the mafia.
Unless he is the mafia, of course. Throwing out two names does not confirm him to be town in any way.
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itai.sharim: I think we should ask ourselves whether this information should go with Rodzaju to the grave. Thoughts?
If by this you mean that you want to extract this information from him, I emphatically say no. If he's town, it can only do more harm than good.
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bazilisek: You may think that, but you don't know that.
I agree. However, as you stated - he only threw two names.

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bazilisek: Unless he is the mafia, of course. Throwing out two names does not confirm him to be town in any way.
Naturally. That is the reason my vote is still on him.

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bazilisek: giving out information for free in this game is always stupid. Let me add that in some cases, it is also foolhardy and potentially very dangerous.
I disagree on that point. I think that full, trustworthy information is key to town win.

I'd like to hear Rodzaju thoughts about sharing his info.
Do you think it will help town?
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itai.sharim: I agree. However, as you stated - he only threw two names.
And there can be mafia name cops in the game, for example, who may reach some sort of conclusion from that. There may be a player, on either side, who knows some other names and may use this information to piece something together. We don't even know how or why Rodzaju himself knows these names. As I said, the possibilities in this game are endless, and ViolatorX hinted that this setup will not be entirely straightforward.
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itai.sharim: I disagree on that point. I think that full, trustworthy information is key to town win.
Not on day one. In the early stages of the game, full, trustworthy information is nothing but a sure-fire way to get yourself killed.
just posting cos the rules post said post every 36 hours im new i don't know how to tell who Mafia are and i cant ask for help cos what if i get help from Mafia? i feel i may have a problem here
Hey guys, I'm in Aalborg at the moment (Live in Copenhagen) for a uni course, which has taken quite some time to prepare for, and will take my attention elsewhere. From friday onwards, my activity MIGHT increase.

In terms of the game, I'm quite surprised the vets haven't picked up on my extremely uncharacteristic lack of activity during this first day, and especially during RVS :O

But things are moving along interestingly, and certain people sure do ping my scumdar, and not the people most might think, at least from what they write :p

I'll try to pop on in more during the week here, but time might dictate inability to do so, as might lack of internet at the palce where I stay :p
There will come a time that my knowledge will be helpful for town, but now is not it.

I do not remember a single occasion of someone accruing 4 votes & then NOT being lynched.
This is why I opened my mouth.
I wanted to show that I am not as disposable as some may suggest.

I asked you to drop it, but you just wouldn't let it go.
BAZ, you know who you are.
What possible setup would give that information to the mafia at game start?
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Cruward_Darkeyes: just posting cos the rules post said post every 36 hours im new i don't know how to tell who Mafia are and i cant ask for help cos what if i get help from Mafia? i feel i may have a problem here
Its never easy at the start - just keep reading the threads, pick up on what other people say, look at their logic for saying it. None of us know who the Mafia are at the moment, its only supposition and (mostly) shaky logic.

Take an overview - people are giving Rod grief for coming out with info at this early stage. Think why they might be doing that. 2 reasons - he has claimed to know more than a vanilla would, which hints at a power role. If you are Town, you wouldn't do this because you are telling the Mafia you have a power role, thereby making yourself a target for a nightkill.....

If you are under lots of pressure ie only 1 or 2 votes away from being lynched, then you would disclose information to save yourself, especially if you have a power role. But to volunteer such when miles off being lynched is not a pro-town move.

Just look at each post and think - 'Is that post in any way helpful to town, or is it not?' That simple maxim can go a long way to helping you to decide if the poster is dodgy or not.

And trust no-one. Start with the idea fixed firmly in your head that EVERYONE ELSE is Mafia.
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Rodzaju: I do not remember a single occasion of someone accruing 4 votes & then NOT being lynched.
This is why I opened my mouth.
I wanted to show that I am not as disposable as some may suggest.
And what about being at L-4 and not getting lynched? It's not the same having 4 votes on D3 or even D2 in 12-players game and here.
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Rodzaju: BAZ, you know who you are.
Why would you mark BAZ as special?
Why would any town member do that?
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Rodzaju: BAZ, you know who you are.
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itai.sharim: Why would you mark BAZ as special?
Why would any town member do that?
I was addressing that part to him directly, as he was continueing to push the point.
The specific significance is something for him alone....