reaver894: and yes they use cracked exe's
StingingVelvet: I knew they did before. I am guessing No Regret is a new example?
In any case like I said I think it's tacky. I can't imagine they don't have the know-how to remove DRM from an exe themselves, you would think that would be core to the job they do. It's not OMG TERRIBLE though, really. It's not like "the scene" has copyright on their work.
Well, why waste time re-doing work that is done? If they have the go ahead it makes sense to focus their efforts on Win 7 compatibility issues instead of recreating a crack that already exists.
Also, like you, I thought all long-timers here knew GOG used .exes cracked by the scenes.
kavazovangel: Okay then, tell me why is it fine for people to post links for Fallout Mod Manager? Because, if you didn't know, it bypasses the GfWL protection of the game.
But GfWL is evil, so bypassing that is okay, right? ;)
Snickersnack: You're being obtuse. The links posted were to the most famous NOCD site around. I'm playing through FO3 right now and I had no idea that Fallout Mod Manger removed the DRM.
Don't put GOG in a difficult position. Take that stuff to other forums.
GfWL on Fallout 3 is completely optional. I played without it and used nothing but the base installer that came on the retail DVD. So kavazovangel is actually wrong. In the US suing a site inking to sites that explain how to remove DRM has been successful successful in the past and doing it yourself is contravened under the DMCA. I'm not saying it's right or that I like it (it pisses me off), but there's a lot of legal issues surrounding this right now and congress has passed no laws to clear them up (instead they're working on SOPA, and The Senate already passed PIPA, to further fuck us over).
keeveek: First:
cracking groups have no rights to their "work"
Second: actual developers/distributors have. They may use crack teams cracks without even bothering to ask.
This is actually (hilariously) untrue in the US. All source code is copyrighted by default in the US. So if even a trivial amount of code was written to implement the crack that portion of the code is copyrighted by the author of said crack.
However, it would be surprising anyone of said cracks trying to assert their legal rights in this regard (and not even for the irony and hypocrisy involved, but for reasons of incrimination) so one can get away with redistributing them without regard to the crack author's wishes (though many of them could be argued to come with the implicit rights to redistribution).