edna and harvey: harvey's new eyes, is quite memorable for being a point&click adventure game, that ends with an epic rpg battle (the only rpg battle in the game).

It had hard moments like trying to kill that one guy on the roof top with badguys surrounding you and if you don't act quick they will blow you away. But yeah that mission was not the hardest, the hardest was saving Lance at a construction site, the part where when you try to escape, badguys in sports cars will try to ram you and unless you have a sports car yourself or a durable vehicle, your screwed. Oh and any GTA Vice City mission that makes you drive a boat.

Now I am perplexed. What "guy on the roof top"? What you describe does not sound anything like the "Keep your friends close..." that I just played earlier today. This is how the mission went for me:

I was at my mansion, and the boss (Sonny?) for which you were sent to jail comes to talk to you. Apparently you are giving him some fake money in a briefcase, 3 million dollars, but he refuses. You learn that the black guy (Lance?) you thought was your friend had sold you out. After that the action starts:

I stand in front of my office on the second floor inside the mansion. A couple of guys run in through the front door, shooting at me. I shoot them with my heavy machine gun. More enemies come through the main door and some from the second floor side doors, I shoot them too.

At some point the traitor (Lance?) comes through the side door I think, spewing some shit. So I shoot him down too. More enemies pour in, I shoot them down effortlessly.

Eventually the main guy (Sonny?) comes through the front door threatening to kill me or worse, and two of his henchmen. Again, I just shoot them down. After that I get a non-interactive part where the lawyer (Ken Rosenberg) keeps asking me what has happened etc., and the end credits roll.

Was I supposed to do something else, or wasn't that the last mission after all? I did get the end credits after that, after which the game still continued and I kept getting funny phone calls from others, but no more missions. As I said, I basically just stood in front of my office door, and shot anything that moved. All the action happened inside the mansion.

HL2 and Ep 2
Oddworld Strangers Wrath
Alan Wake (the words thing was a great idea but sadly not used much)
Mark of the Ninja because the teleporter was great fun

On the other side of the coin
Deus Ex Human Revolution (seriously human zombies wtf were they thinking)
Half Life (I hated Xen because it seemed to take worst elements and make them primary)

Yes, that is a great game ending. The gameplay was normal, the story made it feel epic. I guess you and I just disagree.

I assume developers think more people are like you than me.

Good comeback!

Another game that I enjoyed and thought had a good ending is Nox. It often falls under the radar but it's pure, simple fun.

It is some time I played it but I think Lance is supposed to run and you are forced to follow him to heliport and there is he and bunch of bad guys and you need to kill him there.

I think you were too fast there and managed to avoid part of the mission.

Oh god, this is my "favourite" boss. Old withered guy with scalpel but because he is boss he is much stronger than you or soldiers and des much more damage with his thrown scalpel than assault rifles do to you.



I understand Stinging Velvet and think that Vice City last mission is well in line with the rest if game and that's why it's quite good. There is no sudden change of gameplay, games doesn't try to cheat you by some new tricky stuff and it is harder than most of game. This Scarface ending also fits to Vice City very well and it works better than some tricky and not fitting stuff they could come up with. When I play the game to end, it is probably because I like the gameplay, so I don't want it to suddenly change and come with something completely different.

I meant Lance (I did not want to spoil it to people that Lance ends up betraying Tommy)

Of course I'm taking it to an extreme, I'm trying to prove a point. But I really have experienced boss fights which took the concept to those extremes, and they sucked. As I recall, one of them were responsible for me quitting Painkiller for good, which is why I never completed that game.

What I would give for a new GTA game in 1980s Vice City with the gameplay of GTA 5.

Oh and I would definately love to hear a new V-Rock radio music.

Only sissies cry. Real men stand in the rain and listen to this!

V-V-V-v-v-v-v-Rock!

Well that's just a bad example then. Great example of a well done boss fight would be that in Devil May Cry - when you get to him, you get the most adrenaline-packed fight in the game, while using - and this is important - only the skills obtained while playing the game.You have to time your jumps, dodges, parries and attacks perfectly to beat him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pk1kPD3Gsw

You know when I first heard this song on V-rock I legitimately thought it was band from the 80s in real life, only to find out the song was actually made from the GTA team Rockstar North.

Man they really made a song that feels 80s.

I haven't played Devil May Cry to the end (if we are talking about the PS2 original), but I guess the same could be said about the XIII boss fights. They were similar to fighting other enemies, only that they were much harder.

I felt those boss fights sucked hard. It is easy to make such boss fights: just give them 100x the hitpoints of normal enemies, and make their weapons 10x as powerful as well. There, same gameplay, only much harder this time.