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TwilightBard: .... And I'd like to point out that the only 'case' against me is I 'dared' to think that the town cop was scum. Unfortunately, what I saw was the strongest case in the game.

Muttly....yeah, there's no way in hell I would have noticed those breadcrumbs. You're gonna lynch a townie because you refuse to consider the fact that you just looked scummy.
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I think you are scummy because your tenacity in coming after me based mostly on Barons thoughts and our disagreement on lurkers. Makes me think you have something else in the game. Nothing to do with you choosing to question me. As mentioned seemed like you came at me with some predetermined ideas instead of really reading into what was out there. Personally I am still waiting to see what Vitek has to say about you. I've no idea why he thinks you’re so town.

By the by, couldnt agree more on Robb. I have always had a generally bad feeling about him. The role fishing thing stinks to me as does the attempted grab at "look, I said Muttly was right" posts for D4. Not that you cant say those things, but when you do so without adding anything of value on your own its suspect. But as I FUBAR'ed my pressure on Robb I dont think I can get much of a push going by myself.

I dont know what to think of Itai. I can tell you he was dead on in his post to Vitek about my thoughts. He has at least put stuff out there some. my gut wants to believe he just saw what I was putting out there and is town, but its just my gut and clearly biased because I want someone to have understood me :).

PB I am torn on. Hes another guy whos actions can be seen either way. The overly aggressive defense for my claim, going right to vote on TB. Who knows.

I am fairly confident on Pazzer being scum as well. He hasnt said much thats been original thought, more or less piles on someone elses statements and pushes them. And is totally a guy whos avoided any real suspicion by simply staying out of most everything. Very much like...

Stuart has become. Another enigma to me. I truly did feel his reaction was either the worst mafia play ever (and then hence the best since I fell for it) D1 or it was just a new guy fight between him and CB. I am concerned how he has also avoided any real inspection since D1 by remaining quiet.

And then there is Joe. Joe, Joe, Joe , Joe... No idea. I swing each way almost post by post...
Wow. I went to bed and did some real life and.....

Muttly being cop makes sense, I was kind of thought he might be a role cop after Red_Barons claim as it made his almost obsessive pursuit of Red_Baron into something understandable. I thought a cop would have only got a scum / not scum response so I wouldn't have guessed at that.

I'm not fully convinced of TwilightBard's claim, yet.
I have him as town because of way he posts. I think his play was good and pro-town. He brings up cases but is available to retract his statement but in good way not that it sounds like backpedalling.
You had to expect you will be under scrutiny today after last day, right? So why is it strange someone picked Red_Baron's banner. I don't think he did it in scummy way.
Overall I see his as town. And so far I think he is bad lynch.
Twilight's claim is interesting. Does rest of you has such elaborated falvour as he does?
I don't know what to make of his claim, though. He is named as another player. Could it mean one of them is scum or lyncher or is it just to confirm his flavour? Your thoughts, people?

My main suspects are itai and Robbeasy right now and I am fine with lynching any of them. Robbeasy seems OK with lynching anyone. He was eager with lynching muttly but jumped quickly elsewhere when he saw he won't get lynch here.
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Vitek: ... You had to expect you will be under scrutiny today after last day, right? So why is it strange someone picked Red_Baron's banner. I don't think he did it in scummy way.
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Disagree there. he initially voted me because he didnt like that I was for lynching lurkers early on. He then tacked on the Baron accusations when he found no support for the lurker idea.

As for the flavor, certainly not to the point of having any relation to another player, etc. Or at least the same name of someone else. I wonder if that has anything to do with Nmillar in some way since he seemed concerned with names.

Life note, I will be gone this weekend. This is likely my last post until Sunday. I totally agre with you on Robb. So much so, since I will be gone and wouldn’t want deadline panic to set in without me! vote robbeasy
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Vitek: He is named as another player. Could it mean one of them is scum or lyncher or is it just to confirm his flavour? Your thoughts, people?
I'm not 100% certain if it's another player or not, but I figured that trying to put out as much of the flavor as I have without directly quoting is the best avenue in this.

Muttly, look at what happened from my perspective though. I have someone pushing a lynch for any lurkers (more then 1/3 of the players) who lands on a lurker, I have someone making what appears to be a fairly weak case and being very tunnel visioned on someone almost random, and with what you said in the beginning of the day seemed like very odd town play to me. I had no way of knowing if there was a cop, nevermind that you could have been it. How would you have reacted in my situation?

Honestly, I'm torn on a lot of people, and at this stage of the game, I'm kinda nervous about who could be scum.
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muttly13: As for the flavor, certainly not to the point of having any relation to another player, etc. Or at least the same name of someone else. I wonder if that has anything to do with Nmillar in some way since he seemed concerned with names.
I'd like to know of length of flavour mostly. Is it colourful and descriptive or just plain, short and direct? From all of you.
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muttly13: As for the flavor, certainly not to the point of having any relation to another player, etc. Or at least the same name of someone else. I wonder if that has anything to do with Nmillar in some way since he seemed concerned with names.
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Vitek: I'd like to know of length of flavour mostly. Is it colourful and descriptive or just plain, short and direct? From all of you.
Well...it's shorter and more to the point then Joe's was from game 8...but that's not saying much.

Honestly, I'd say it's a fair bit of color, probably also looking at me not originally supposed to be here (oh the irony of flavor to me being a replacement). But I don't know how to judge it best. There's a bit more, mainly me going out often so my wife doesn't find out I lost my job as a car salesman, and hearing about the gathering while at a casino, I just couldn't figure out how to tie it in without running the risk of being too close.

I'm not sure what else to say on the manner.
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Vitek: I'd like to know of length of flavour mostly. Is it colourful and descriptive or just plain, short and direct? From all of you.
I have about a paragraph. It's mildly descriptive, but I wouldn't say too colourful. It certainly sounds like I have way less description than TwilightBard which makes me doubt the claim.
ffs people clearly don't reads posts properly
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Robbeasy: Theres role-fishing, and then theres role-fishing.
Oh really? And who am I rolefishing? Muttly? That's an AWFUL lot of work with an AMAZING amount of risk vs. a fairly small reward. Quite frankly that's more work then I'd be willing to put into such a gambit.

If you're referring to Itai, then I'm willing to point out that he's been fairly defensive about Muttly and his comment on the Baron lynch not being luck a fair number of posts before Muttly claimed is him willingly admitting that he had some kind of information. I was very curious as to what that information is, and as Muttly said, he had put out breadcrumbs, so there WAS a possibility that he had found that and put the pieces together ahead of time.

Unfortunately with the cat out of the bag then I don't think that it's usable anymore as anything.

I'm sorry, this looks way too much like you're trying to find an excuse to jump wagons. And I think I need to take a bit closer look at things.

For now Unvote Itai since I lost the ability to apply any pressure there.
Votecount:

3 - Twilightbard (Stuart, Robbeasy, Peanutbrittle)
1 - Muttly13 (Pazzer)
1 - Vitek (Joesapphire)
1 - Robbeasy (Muttly)

Not voting: Vitek, Itai.sharim, Twilightbard

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is 1am GMT 5 February.
@Peanut - Can you explain why TB has been your backup suspect?

Joe hasn't posted for a while, so I would love to hear what he has to say on the current situation.

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muttly13: 1 - Since I believe TB to be scum and had ID'ed my breadcrumbs, I must also think they may have been able to manipulate the read I was given.
What makes you think the mafia are capable of such a thing?
Seems there's been a flurry of activity. Lots to take in, will probably require some re reading. Footy is just about to start so will do a proper read later today.
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JoeSapphire:
Hey, did you sleep in again?
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itai.sharim: @Peanut - Can you explain why TB has been your backup suspect?
Process of elimination. There are only three people I think are leaning scum, and out of all of them TB is the most suspicious. He seems to be trying to bring up the pressure on multiple guests which seems like trying to fish out claims and find proper night targets under the guise of scumhunting.

It's just a theory, but I don't have much else I particularly care to act on.