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Posted January 03, 2012
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muttly13: You did respond, only it was game 8 :). That said, safe to say you be comfortable with lynching NMillar at this point?
Right now no.
Posted January 03, 2012
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muttly13: That said, safe to say you be comfortable with lynching NMillar at this point?
And I'll jump right back in here again. This to me seems like a sly attempt to encourage others to participate in a quick lynch.
Posted January 03, 2012
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muttly13: That said, safe to say you be comfortable with lynching NMillar at this point?
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nmillar: And I'll jump right back in here again. This to me seems like a sly attempt to encourage others to participate in a quick lynch.
Or attempting to get a clarification. Seems a big risk to have him say "no", if that was my diabolical plan. Which he did.

Since you have decided to join us again, tell me why you think its okay to say nothing about the two votes on you yet you insist on trying to call me out for simple questions? I am not sure how asking Vitek straight out if he is still comfortable voting you is "sly".
Posted January 03, 2012
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nmillar: And I'll jump right back in here again. This to me seems like a sly attempt to encourage others to participate in a quick lynch.
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muttly13: Or attempting to get a clarification. Seems a big risk to have him say "no", if that was my diabolical plan. Which he did.

Since you have decided to join us again, tell me why you think its okay to say nothing about the two votes on you yet you insist on trying to call me out for simple questions? I am not sure how asking Vitek straight out if he is still comfortable voting you is "sly".
It's actually three votes, and there's nothing to comment on since nobody has actually provided a proper reason yet.

Zchinque was using the vote as a prod more than anything, Vitek has already stated that he wouldn't be comfortable with it leading to a lynch and JoeSapphire added his vote for lurking while I was absent during an extremely busy Christmas period (GOG Secret Santa, family stuff, Steam achievements hunt).

We're now into the New Year and normal service has resumed. :)
Posted January 03, 2012
Since you didnt address the sly part, I will get to the point of asking Vitek (and in some respect Z, although as you stated he basically already answered it). So all in all it seems we are headed for a day 1 no-lynch unless somebody gets something moving. As per the last vote count...

3 - Nmillar (Vitek, Zchinque, JoeSapphire) - At least two would presumably be removed if it became apparent that a lynch was close.
2 - Zchinque (Orry, Peanutbrittle) - Seemingly little support for this.
2 - Stuart9001 (Crazybear, Red Baron) - Same.
2 - Muttly13 (Robbeasy, Nmillar) - Dont know, but am assuming since folks have not voted me in droves yet that they agree I am not a prime target.

Leaving off the one votes as they arent much to consider. Besides that, really no one is close even if the three on Nmillar were legit. We are effectively two days out (given time zones and such). I would join with Z in asking people get some stuff on the board to work with.

In that spirit I am happy to go to my next lurking pal... vote Orryyrro who last posted something I felt was meaningful (and happened to agree with his second paragraph) at 259 (three days ago). For fairness, he also posted 2 days ago at 277 but it wasnt adding much in my opinion. Decide for yourself.

PS - This also goes by GOGs hideous posting time stamps, so I apologize if they are far off, but the fact still remains Orry hasnt been super involved and I would like to kick start something.
Posted January 03, 2012
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Zchinque: [quote cut...]t was intended to get nmillar out of his shell. I, at least, find it much harder to let an unexplained vote slide[...quote cut]
The reason you didn't explain yourself until now is because you were expecting a reaction from Millar?

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Red_Baron: JoeSapphire..I have some kind of idea that his play so far shows some learning in progress, but what he is learning as, I have not yet made up my mind about.
This made me laugh. I think it is my favourite read I have read in a mafia game.

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pazzer: Joe – Said random voting stage is a very stressful time. Which strikes me as odd as I think it's the most relaxed part of the game. Only reason I can think it would be stressful is if you're trying to avoid fingering your mafia buddies.
Ah! that's nice inferrence! It does kind of make sense what you say.
The reason I feel stressed during the random voting stage is because; I hate it; I never know what to say; I start to feel like mafia is serious business and I get irrationally annoyed when people are larking around (irrationally! - I'll iterate); I want the game to move on into something I can start thinking about deductively but there is no way to do that so I feel powerless.

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pazzer: Referred to Muttly as muttscum and seemed eager to lynch him. Though later on seemed happy to accept Muttly's argument against Robbeasy.
Oh yeah! Perhaps this is NMillar's reason for saying I was imitating Zchinque's playing style?
'Muttscum' was a reference to Zchnique's 'Robscum' in game #7. (An accusation which turned out to be true. Wait, I'm not implying that mine will turn out to be. It's possible though. It would be cool if it did (and I'd want observers to be appropriately impressed (-; )) So I referenced Zchinque in that game to try and get a reaction out of people. I was dissappointed that it went entirely ignored until now.
I wouldn't have minded lynching muttly13 but I didn't really have much in the way of scumtell on him. He seems to be making sense.

Could I just ask everyone if any of you picked up on the muttscum/robbscum reference but didn't mention it?

It's nice to see NMillar with us again.
I think he said the reason for my vote on him was lurking - that's not quite right.
I voted a bit because of the deadline and so it is partly a bandwagon vote. I know I shouldn't admit that but bleh. Too late now.
I said at the time I would vote for either Miller Rob or Zcnq.
Zchinque I've decided to trust. (because of why would he be so crazy if he was mafia? wine wine wine I'll stick with it for now.)
Rob I think yeah he's playing weird and he could be mafia.
NMillar was playing weird AND zchq had voted for him who I had decided to trust.
I still would like NMillar to be lynched.
(Maybe a little bit because he doesn't seem threatened at all and childishly I take offense at that.)
But yeah how cool would it be if his first time playing mafia saw him as gog's first-time day one mafia lynch? That is what I keep thinking.
Posted January 03, 2012
"JoeSapphire..I have some kind of idea that his play so far shows some learning in progress, but what he is learning as, I have not yet made up my mind about. "

Aw no! I just read it again and it says LEARNING...

I read 'shows some leaning in progress, but what he is leaning as I have not made up my mind about' as in "leaning town/leaning mafia"

So I thought red baron was saying "I think Joe is leaning...... something... but what that is I don't know...."
That's what made me laugh.

Learning however is interesting. What do you mean by that that I am learning?
Posted January 03, 2012
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JoeSapphire: The reason I feel stressed during the random voting stage is because; I hate it; I never know what to say; I start to feel like mafia is serious business and I get irrationally annoyed when people are larking around (irrationally! - I'll iterate); I want the game to move on into something I can start thinking about deductively but there is no way to do that so I feel powerless.
That's why I love rvs as it's the only time mafia doesn't feel serious. As you tend to get sucked in as the game goes on. Also the nonsense reasons people come up with for voting. Though can see why if you want the game to get moving you'd hate it.

Nmillar is back but seems to be playing differently that normal. As usually takes sometime to get warmed up. But has homed straight in on Muttly.

Of course Muttly is also acting odd.

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muttly13: That said I am content to unvote Robbeasy in an attempt to find someone by the deadline.
As surely if Rob is his top target he should be trying to convince people and get him lynched. Instead he seems to be happy for anyone to be lynched.

@Nmillar do you think the game started during the holiday season?

@Red Baron is your vote for stuart just left over from rvs or is there a reason for it?
Posted January 03, 2012
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pazzer: @Nmillar do you think the game started during the holiday season?
It started on December 14, which was extremely bad timing for me personally as the GOG Secret Santa was in full flow by then; chasing wishlists, doing the draw, chasing people for gifts (which continued into Christmas Day itself).

Not necessarily the Holiday Season, but quite a few people would have been winding down and getting ready for Christmas.
Posted January 03, 2012
Welcome back Vitek.
It's so much easier to track what's happening when you recognize people's Avatars!!
Posted January 03, 2012
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stuart9001: @Zchinque: I did not claim that you called for a "lurk lynch" merely that you are certainly complicit in it in the way that you called for everyone to vote
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Zchinque: No, a lurker lynch is more or less forced upon us by the mod and most of the players lurking. People don't seem to be interested in finding scum, they're only interested in not sticking their necks out.
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stuart9001: It reads like a call to lynch lurkers to me. So here we have what by your definition is "mafia trying to start a bandwagon" and you unvoted him at the same time as saying this. Care to comment?
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stuart9001: @Zchinque: I did not claim that you called for a "lurk lynch"
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stuart9001: It reads like a call to lynch lurkers to me.
Posted January 03, 2012
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stuart9001: It reads like a call to lynch lurkers to me.
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Zchinque:
Huh?
Posted January 03, 2012
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muttly13: Huh?
Read the quotes.

In one (post #308) he says he did not claim that I called for a lurker lynch, while in an earlier post (post #290) he says that one of my earlier posts seems to be a call for a lurker lynch.

I fail to see how that is not a blatant self contradiction.
Posted January 03, 2012
Ahh. Got it, sorry.
Posted January 04, 2012
Are you going to say anything to this or not, Stuart?
unvote, vote Stuart.
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