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Licurg: That's the problem - it's painless(or at least, that's what they say). In Vlad Tepes' time, someone like this filth would've been impaled in such a way as to avoid the internal organs, so the scum would die slowly over the course of hours or, as some scholars write, up to 2 days. That's what this vermin would've deserved, that's what he would've got in a normal society.
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lukaszthegreat: in vlad's times those people would not be punished for those crimes.
unless he killed nobles.

if he was rich he would be able to kill rape without any consequences (lesser class of people of course)
You obviously don't know much about history. In Vlad Tepes' time, all crime, regardless of who the victim was, was punishable by impalement. You could leave a bag of gold in the middle of any town for days, come back, and it would still be there. Don't confuse the east with the west, things here were very different in that time.
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Licurg: That's the problem - it's painless(or at least, that's what they say). In Vlad Tepes' time, someone like this filth would've been impaled in such a way as to avoid the internal organs, so the scum would die slowly over the course of hours or, as some scholars write, up to 2 days. That's what this vermin would've deserved, that's what he would've got in a normal society.
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wizardtypething: What does suffering accomplish if it's memory and experience is obliterated upon death?

Removing dangerous elements from society seems to be entirely more useful than some metaphysical concept of 'justice'.
Making the scum suffer would deter at least some of the people who might consider doing things like this, and would be a comfort for the families of the victims, knowing they got as much pain as their loved ones.
Post edited June 07, 2013 by Licurg
I always find it a bit sad when people are jubilant over the death of another human being.

Hoping that another human being should suffer, or wish that they be tortured is however not sad - it's scary.
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fortune_p_dawg: May he rest in shit.
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tinyE: I'm not in favor of capital punishment and the fact that he spent thirty years on death row before finally succumbing to what is being initially called "natural causes" proves the point that it really doesn't accomplish anything other to make the sociopath (at least in his case) more famous.
A fame you happily would contribute just a tiny bit to by making this thread.
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maggotheart: A fate worse than death IMO
Would you mind to elaborate?
I'll post here the same video when any thread about anybody's passing appears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE
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Zchinque: I always find it a bit sad when people are jubilant over the death of another human being.

Hoping that another human being should suffer, or wish that they be tortured is however not sad - it's scary.
The guy raped and murdered (at least) 14 women...
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lukaszthegreat: if he was rich he would be able to kill rape without any consequences (lesser class of people of course)
Not true!

He would have to pay a fine!
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DaCostaBR: I'm also not in favor of capital punishment, but I don't like the roundabout way they do it. Supposedly it's painless, some people say that it actually isn't and the cocktail of drugs just makes it impossible for them to express pain. So I wish they just went the chinese route and put a bullet in the back of his head. It's direct and you know with absolute certainty that it does hurt, but 0.1 seconds later it will stop hurting. I guess Im just blunt like that.
Actually, I've heard that a shot to the head doesn't hurt much. At worst, you actually only feel superficial pain on the surface of your head. Depending on where in the brain the bullet goes, you would either die instantly or actually not be aware of what just happened. EIther it hits the prefrontal cortex, which would basically prevent you from understanding what just happen and inhibit your ability to process pain as unpleasant, it would hit the posterior parietal cortex, which makes you unable to feel pain anyway, or your temporal lobe, which would force you to forget what just happened.
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Zchinque: I always find it a bit sad when people are jubilant over the death of another human being.

Hoping that another human being should suffer, or wish that they be tortured is however not sad - it's scary.
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tinyE: I'm not in favor of capital punishment and the fact that he spent thirty years on death row before finally succumbing to what is being initially called "natural causes" proves the point that it really doesn't accomplish anything other to make the sociopath (at least in his case) more famous.
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Zchinque: A fame you happily would contribute just a tiny bit to by making this thread.
First off he wasn't a human being.
Second, he's dead. There is no more to be gained by him regarding notoriety.

And I just noticed I'm getting derepped for celebrating the passing of a serial rapist and murderer. That's cute.
Post edited June 07, 2013 by tinyE
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Licurg: Making the scum suffer would deter at least some of the people who might consider doing things like this, and would be a comfort for the families of the victims, knowing they got as much pain as their loved ones.
Severity of the punishment doesn't have much to do with prevention. Every criminal hopes he will not be caught and doesn't even get being caught into consideration while doing his crime.

With so many criminals walking on a street without a slightest chance of being caught, making punishements more severe doesn't change a thing.
Erm...who's the idiot downrepping everyone?
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jamyskis: Erm...who's the idiot downrepping everyone?
His wife?
Yep -3 in the last five minutes. I seem to have offended all the fans of serial rapist and murders that hang out here. :P
Post edited June 07, 2013 by tinyE
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jamyskis: Actually, I've heard that a shot to the head doesn't hurt much. At worst, you actually only feel superficial pain on the surface of your head. Depending on where in the brain the bullet goes, you would either die instantly or actually not be aware of what just happened. EIther it hits the prefrontal cortex, which would basically prevent you from understanding what just happen and inhibit your ability to process pain as unpleasant, it would hit the posterior parietal cortex, which makes you unable to feel pain anyway, or your temporal lobe, which would force you to forget what just happened.
47% of shot in the head victims survive after immediate medical attention. Most of the ones who die don't die instantly. But yeah, they usually don't really understand what happened to them nor feel pain.

It's a myth that shot in the head equals death, unless it's performed with high power rifle and hollow point ammunition. Which wouldn't be used in cases like capital punishment.
Post edited June 07, 2013 by keeveek
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Zchinque: I always find it a bit sad when people are jubilant over the death of another human being.
Agreed. I find it somewhat redeeming that the forum quickly and clearly expressed what it thinks of such a stance.
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Zchinque: I always find it a bit sad when people are jubilant over the death of another human being.

Hoping that another human being should suffer, or wish that they be tortured is however not sad - it's scary.
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Licurg: The guy raped and murdered (at least) 14 women...
[sarcasm]Oh. I wasn't aware. Thanks for telling me! That changes everything![/sarcasm]

His death, nor any anguish, pain, or torture he has suffered, will somehow bring back those he killed or serve as penance for his actions.
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Licurg: Making the scum suffer would deter at least some of the people who might consider doing things like this, and would be a comfort for the families of the victims, knowing they got as much pain as their loved ones.
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keeveek: Severity of the punishment doesn't have much to do with prevention. Every criminal hopes he will not be caught and doesn't even get being caught into consideration while doing his crime.

With so many criminals walking on a street without a slightest chance of being caught, making punishements more severe doesn't change a thing.
Actually it does. Like in the US, where pedophiles go to states that have lesser punishments for their insanity, there've been reports in the media about it.