I really don't see the point in it, other then to attempt a brainwash other players into seeing as a supreme vilain, or to try and outrage me :/...

First day has been mainly about me. I'm a little egocentric, but I'd advise forgetting about me for a while, and if you believe I am mafia, try finding my team mates instead of wasting anymore time with me.

Bit worse votecount this time:

Noxoss – 4 – SirPrimalform, CSPVG, Robbeasy, TwisterBE
QuadAlien – 4 – Jmich, flubbucket, Lifthrasil, JoeSapphire
CSPVG – 1 – Noxoss
TwisterBE – 1 - Pina

Not voting - TwilightBard, QuadrAlien

Noxoss and QuadrAlien are closest to lynch with 4 votes, tied at L-3.

Yes... Sorry, I thought it was a rethorical question.
It's obvious that laying "traps" for mafia is part of the game..
When a Townie for instance proposes a no-lynch at day 1, it may be he's gauging players reactions ... and he never really wanted a no-lynch majority.

Nah, just a joke I stole from Joe. I was using it to illustrate how strongly I feel in this case. :P

If I try to lynch people for cowardice, bad. If I don't, bad.

Make up your mind!

You are still, technically, trying to lynch someone for cowardice. :P

Seriously, however, I'd like to hear you share your thoughts with us once again. Setting aside N0x0ss and TwisterBE for a moment, whom do you deem to be the most suspect players? Has anyone done/said anything that leads you to believe that they are 'scum'?

Actually, laying traps for mafia isn't part of the game, especially not in Day 1. To properly lay a trap you need to have information, which usually means either a track result or a cop result. You can't judge reactions easily, you can judge actions and posts. So for example if I say "Hm, why would Vitek turn up dead after you visited him last night?" and you answer "I wasn't. I don't have a night action", by revealing myself as a tracker and saying that I did track you last night and you did visit Vitek, you are automatically moved up to the scum list as next to lynch (alongside me of course). If I do the same thing without any evidence to support it, it's your word that you didn't visit against mine that you did visit. If I had acted as suspiciously as you have so far, I wouldn't be able to convince anyone that you are the killer.

Also
The above strikes me quite badly as another attempt to manipulate the town. And you've already claimed in post 70 that you think townies should manipulate other townies.
Basic concept for townies is to never lie. Scum will lie, and if town also lies, town will get lynched. TwilightBard posted the same thing back in post 87.

Also, add to it the fact that you still haven't answered CSPVG's question of post 297, even though he asked you again.


Still waiting for more insight by Quadralien before deciding if I'll have to switch vote.

Please be so kind as to provide a link to the initial post he's talking to me about ? The post flubbucket and Lifthrasil (Who finds EVERYTHING suspicious btw) found suspicious ?

bah, technicalities.

My experience hasn't magically increased this last few days, so my position of "wait and see as I don't have the foggiest idea" remains. I was however thinking that while townies have jobs, mafias do not; their only goal is to kill everybody around. Which means the people with the free time to go around all day launching accusations and formulating theories are mafia. And that puts you high on my suspect list.

Well, mafia or police. But who likes police anyway?

Townies do. Because cops protect the town. The only ones with a reason not to like cops are mafia! :-)

Post 279. He suggests focusing our discussion on the two people with the most votes, and ignoring the others.
If he later claimed "No, it was a ruse to judge reactions", would that make him more or less suspect?

Life is so nice in fairy tales, isn't it?

Actually yes. And we are playing in one (as long as vitek doesn't invent the role of a corrupt cop). But joking aside, I still get the impression that you are stalling instead of trying to help. Lightening the mood with a few non-serios posts is fine. But hiding behind inexperience as an excuse for lurking is not fine. I'm inexperienced too and yet I try my best to contribute. And since the damage control argument for voting on pazzer isn't valid any more, I might as well stop voting for QuadAlien. Because at the moment with your insistence on only waiting (with a deadline looming ahead) makes you more suspicious than him. So:

vote P1na!


@N0x0ss: you are right in your accusation that I seem to suspect everyone. This game somehow makes one paranoid. Sorry if that comes over as overly critical. But I think it is part of the game that everybody could be mafia. So all we can do is try to guess likelihoods and at the moment P1na (obviously), TwisterBE, QuadAlien, you and CSPVG are leading my likelihood list.

I've been quiet because a majority of the posts go off when I'm asleep, so there's not as much back and forth. You guys are most active when I can't be.

I also don't like the automatic focus on just 2 people. Yeah, it may naturally happen as the day goes on, but saying that we should do it, strikes me as Mafia trying to control the flow of the conversation. I'm starting to rethink my options on that regard.

@Noxoss: I think a lot of the interest is also in your defense. Day 1 is one of those cases where gauging a player's defense under pressure is brought up by their defense, and that's a bit subjective. But that doesn't hide the fact that you have gone a bit overboard with it, to the point that you do look like you may be grasping at straws trying to save yourself (But, hey, better then what I did in another game <.<). Honestly, I'm not sure what to think, inexperience trying to stay in the game to learn more, Mafia trying to struggle to not be caught, it's a hard game to weigh.

But, Votewise, I'm doing this. Vote CSPVG, his comment about bringing the discussion to be about only 2 people strikes me as way to odd to ignore. I sorta feel like something's up with it, even if I can understand where it might be coming from. It just comes across as an attempt to move the conversation in a direction that doesn't benefit town.