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Posted July 09, 2013
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pazzer: Please replace :(
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SirPrimalform: But whyyy!?
But whyyy!?


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JoeSapphire: .............<Snip>...............


And why not - my top mafias at the moment are:

FluBBucket - hates claiming yet unprovoked 'human' claim. Audacious enough for this kind of stunt? I'ld like to think so.
RobBeasy - not giving anything away about himself (which is a good). Didn't take a stance on softclaiming. A bit of facesitting. (FENCE) ALSO voted Flubbucket and then unvoted him for no particular reason so the idea that these guys are on a mafia team together pleases me.

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My thoughts regarding your reason for voting me....the reason just lacks something. It seems a dubious position to take and gives me the gut feeling of scum.

Your comment regarding Robbeasy voting then unvoting has some merit. However, I view his statements (sometimes) as [I]thinking while typing.[/I] Not bad... just forming thoughts and less calculated.

Your reason for voting me seems less logic based and more of a thing to pick at on day one. More calculated or crafted so to speak.


My eyes are on the lurkers.
Posted July 09, 2013
..............thinking while typing................(grief)



As opposed to my typing and not so much................../derp
Posted July 09, 2013
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TwisterBE: Still lurking. But I guess I will have to vote sooner or later.

Vote Lifthrasil

He is my top suspect for now, together with someone else I won't mention just yet.
Might I enquire why I am your top suspect? Also, if you have another suspect and if you actually were a townie, wouldn't it be better for the town to share your suspicion? The town can only win by ganging up on suspicious people (we need a majority to lynch, after all). So keeping valid reasons for suspicion hidden is something a mafia would do. Plus, wasn't it explained in this thread that lurking only benefits the mafia in the initial phase?
Posted July 09, 2013
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Lifthrasil: Might I enquire why I am your top suspect? Also, if you have another suspect and if you actually were a townie, wouldn't it be better for the town to share your suspicion? The town can only win by ganging up on suspicious people (we need a majority to lynch, after all). So keeping valid reasons for suspicion hidden is something a mafia would do. Plus, wasn't it explained in this thread that lurking only benefits the mafia in the initial phase?
Sharing suspicion would only alert the person under surveillance... He/She will make double the effort not to make a mistake.
This is why for instance I say outloud that I suspect JoeSapphire when I really am watching other members :-).
Oups... I shouldn't have said that :o.
Posted July 09, 2013
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CSPVG: 4. JoeSapphire- Referred to me as 'someone' in several posts
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JoeSapphire: I just went and found it - imagine if I had gone with my assumption and said "Lifthrasil asked" - fortunately I am savvy enough to consume myself with doubt
That's okay, Joe. It was really only me chasing after a cheap way to segue into being bitter about not having your hat.

As for the game: There are so many people that look suspicious, not to mention the three or so people lurking. I'd forgotten how frustrating I used to find the first day in Mafia games. I've got a bit to think about, but I'm fairly sure I should make a vote soon.
Posted July 09, 2013
I've looked back at a couple of things, and still feel that N0x0ss looks quite suspicious. So, for the time, being, Vote:N0x0ss.
Posted July 09, 2013
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Lifthrasil: Might I enquire why I am your top suspect? Also, if you have another suspect and if you actually were a townie, wouldn't it be better for the town to share your suspicion? The town can only win by ganging up on suspicious people (we need a majority to lynch, after all). So keeping valid reasons for suspicion hidden is something a mafia would do. Plus, wasn't it explained in this thread that lurking only benefits the mafia in the initial phase?
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N0x0ss: Sharing suspicion would only alert the person under surveillance... He/She will make double the effort not to make a mistake.
This is why for instance I say outloud that I suspect JoeSapphire when I really am watching other members :-).
Oups... I shouldn't have said that :o.
Sorry - I have to totally disagree with this.

We only have one weapon against Mafia - that is voting and by extension, pressure. You say you have someone under surveillance - you have some reason to suspect them, so as a Townie your duty is to voice that suspicion and get other people's judgement on it. By going alone with suspicions and not putting them out there for other players to read, you are only helping Mafia.

The more information, theories etc that are out there, the more likely it is for the Mafia to slip up. It's one of the reasons that lurkers are frowned upon - contribute little, keep things to themselves, don't create information.

vote N0x0ss
Posted July 09, 2013
Sounds Like Mafia are finally ganging up on me :)

Took you a while. I ask townies to look close at whom is voting against me, because I'm pretty sure at least one mafia is amongst them :).
Posted July 09, 2013
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Robbeasy: We only have one weapon against Mafia - that is voting and by extension, pressure. You say you have someone under surveillance - you have some reason to suspect them, so as a Townie your duty is to voice that suspicion and get other people's judgement on it. By going alone with suspicions and not putting them out there for other players to read, you are only helping Mafia.
That's about what I understood too. And by the same reasoning TwisterBE, who still didn't reply, is very suspicious too:
-lurking
-voicing a suspicion without giving a reason for it
-claiming to have another suspicion but not sharing it.

all of this is not helpful for the town. Might of course only be an overly cautious play-style. But I rather suspect a Mafia hiding behind an overly cautious play-style.

The fact that N0x0ss defended TwisterBE makes him in turn even more suspicious than he already was before. To me it appears at the moment that N0x0ss and TwisterBE are both mafia who cooperate. But one at a time. So I'll stick to my vote for now and hope that the suspicion will turn out to be true and that we can draw useful conclusions when we find out more.
Posted July 09, 2013
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N0x0ss: Sounds Like Mafia are finally ganging up on me :)

Took you a while. I ask townies to look close at whom is voting against me, because I'm pretty sure at least one mafia is amongst them :).
Again - false logic.

You are deliberately, by your own admission, acting suspiciously and keeping things to yourself, which is anti-town play, then when it inevitably attracts attention, scream Mafia must be ganging up on you. Surely its a lot more likely we are voting for you because we find your actions highly suspect and think you are indeed Mafia yourself??

Of course should you flip town then an analysis of your voting wagon is a given anyway...!
Posted July 09, 2013
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N0x0ss: Sounds Like Mafia are finally ganging up on me :)

Took you a while. I ask townies to look close at whom is voting against me, because I'm pretty sure at least one mafia is amongst them :).
If this is the 'strategy' you said you were following earlier, I must disagree totally with its effectiveness. Though you may claim that in voting for you, at least one person thus far has shown himself/herself to be a mafia member(you may well be right, for all I know), you must concede that you have been acting suspect. I don't feel that the way you've been acting is very helpful to town, as you've been acting openly suspicious. It seems odd to me to act in a this manner, and then turn to those that point it out yelling,"I knew that if I acted suspicious for long enough, someone would notice. And you have! Therefore you must be suspicious, too!"
Posted July 09, 2013
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N0x0ss: Sounds Like Mafia are finally ganging up on me :)

Took you a while. I ask townies to look close at whom is voting against me, because I'm pretty sure at least one mafia is amongst them :).
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CSPVG: If this is the 'strategy' you said you were following earlier, I must disagree totally with its effectiveness. Though you may claim that in voting for you, at least one person thus far has shown himself/herself to be a mafia member(you may well be right, for all I know), you must concede that you have been acting suspect. I don't feel that the way you've been acting is very helpful to town, as you've been acting openly suspicious. It seems odd to me to act in a this manner, and then turn to those that point it out yelling,"I knew that if I acted suspicious for long enough, someone would notice. And you have! Therefore you must be suspicious, too!"
which is what i was trying to say, except that you have said it much better....;)
Posted July 09, 2013
When I'll be lynched (Witch is probably gonna happen very soon), Lifthrasil is going to understand just how foolish and speedy his conclusions are.

I never said I deliberately acted suspicious just to see who'd jump at the opportunity to frame me, I'm just making the best out of the situation because If I'm gonna die, i'm taking at least one of the mafias with me.

And I choose CSPVG who could have as easily chosen to vote against TwisterBE who has also chosen to keep quiet about some suspicions (without explanation), but instead prefered to jump on the N0x0ss train.
I'd like to add that he clearly seems to be familiar with mafia games, and yet he votes No lynch witch is a very bad move to make on a first day.

I can only hope that my lynch will help catch a mafia.
Posted July 09, 2013
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CSPVG: If this is the 'strategy' you said you were following earlier, I must disagree totally with its effectiveness. Though you may claim that in voting for you, at least one person thus far has shown himself/herself to be a mafia member(you may well be right, for all I know), you must concede that you have been acting suspect. I don't feel that the way you've been acting is very helpful to town, as you've been acting openly suspicious. It seems odd to me to act in a this manner, and then turn to those that point it out yelling,"I knew that if I acted suspicious for long enough, someone would notice. And you have! Therefore you must be suspicious, too!"
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Robbeasy: which is what i was trying to say, except that you have said it much better....;)
I can't help but feel that you're trying to sell me up the river, Rob.

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N0x0ss: When I'll be lynched (Witch is probably gonna happen very soon), Lifthrasil is going to understand just how foolish and speedy his conclusions are.

I never said I deliberately acted suspicious just to see who'd jump at the opportunity to frame me, I'm just making the best out of the situation because If I'm gonna die, i'm taking at least one of the mafias with me.

And I choose CSPVG who could have as easily chosen to vote against TwisterBE who has also chosen to keep quiet about some suspicions (without explanation), but instead prefered to jump on the N0x0ss train.
I'd like to add that he clearly seems to be familiar with mafia games, and yet he votes No lynch witch is a very bad move to make on a first day.

I can only hope that my lynch will help catch a mafia
I think you're being slightly hyperbolic. That, or our conceptualisations of 'wagons/trains' are quite different. I count three votes to your name. That doesn't seem like a wagon to me, more like a gig.

As for not voting TwisterBe; he's on my suspects list because of his inactivity and unwillingness to share information, but you still look more suspicious.

Finally, I often start out going with a nolynch vote until I have something a little more concrete to work with. I'm not terribly fond of the random voting stage.
Posted July 09, 2013
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CSPVG: I count three votes to your name.
I count 4, though it is possible I miscounted. Can I ask Vitek for a votecount then?

As for N0x0ss, I still find him an overeager slightly selfish player, which does correspond more or less to his previous games. As I (and others) said before, withholding information is bad for town. Feel free to keep a few bits for yourself, or leave breadcrumbs on the way, but know that should you be lynched or nightkilled without the chance of posting, the key to cracking the game may be lost with your demise.

I'm keeping my vote on Pazzer while waiting for his replacement. Have I mentioned how much I hate day 1 in mafia games yet?
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