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kavazovangel: You mention all those genres being destroyed by EA. How sure are you that the games would have been better if the original developers still worked at EA?

Maybe the developers are still working on the games, only the studios (as a subsidiary or company) have closed, and it is their fault for the state of the games, and not EA's? Try viewing the situation from that angle.
How about if they worked as independent studios instead of under EA. I pretty sure studios like Bioware can easily stay independent or semi-independent if they weren't tempted to take the lure of EA's buyout. Once you're under a publisher, you're entirely under their mercy. And almost always all shit seems to happen once EA acquires a new developer, it doesn't happen at first but as time goes on you start to see it.
For me, Red Alert 3 was a great game (so it was for most of the world except fanboys
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/command-conquer-red-alert-3)
. Also, C&C Generals 2 is coming soon.

Ps. I think those companies would go down without EA, because they were facing near bankruptcy before EA took them over. (well, Virgin interactive was, to be precise)

Ultima Online is doing fine also.

Looking how they try to restore old franchises lately (contrary to Microsoft for example) makes me believe that new Ultima game will be made, sometime in the future.
You can't be serious about Simcity
I am deadly serious.

You're blaming EA for trying to change something in their franchices instead of copypasting like Ubisoft or Activision have in common. They tried to do something more with SimCity and it failed.

But new SimCity installement they annouced weeks ago seems to be back to roots.

I hate fanboys who want their franchise to remain the same for ages, to be the same games with only slight changes.
Post edited April 19, 2012 by keeveek
HA! That deserves you right for not releasing expansion packs in GOG! I knew that would bite EA in their ass eventually. People have spoken. Som nam naa!

Oh yeah and the ME3 ending! Never forget The Ending!
Post edited April 19, 2012 by timppu
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timppu: HA! That deserves you right for not releasing expansion packs in GOG! I knew that would bite EA in their ass eventually. People have spoken. Som nam naa!
i'm just gonna go ahead and think that's actually GOG's fault, not EA's.
Oh the shock of it poor EA maybe they should stop producing 90% games with dlc for endings then customers may support them more.
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keeveek: For me, Red Alert 3 was a great game. Also, C&C Generals 2 is coming soon.

Ps. I think those companies would go down without EA, because they were facing near bankruptcy before EA took them over.

Ultima Online is doing fine also.
Red Alert 3 was slightly better than C&C4 but imo, still bad, I can't stand the story.
I never liked the first Generals as a C&C fan, I did like the animation of the the nuclear mushroom cloud exploding but that's about it, never cared about the storyline either. So I doubt I will care about Generals 2. What I'm more concerned about is hearing that EA is not letting the C&C franchise just die off after 4, after C&C4 I think I rather see the franchise dead then see another sequel come out from EA. I want to keep the good memories of the franchise, throwing the bad ones out and let it rest, instead of them consistently digging up the corpse and multilating it.

I highly doubt studios like Bioware are facing bankruptcy.

Richard Garriot mentioned back then he was disgruntled with EA for ruining Ultima. Not sure what their relationships are now.

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keeveek: I am deadly serious.

You're blaming EA for trying to change something in their franchices instead of copypasting like Ubisoft or Activision have in common. They tried to do something more with SimCity and it failed.

But new SimCity installement they annouced weeks ago seems to be back to roots.

I hate fanboys who want their franchise to remain the same for ages, to be the same games with only slight changes.
If by change you mean dumbing down the whole gameplay like in Simcities Socieities you're spot on.
I hate Activision and Ubisoft too, but EA has is well-known for copy and pasting too.
I was actually happy at the new Simcity announcement then. But for now I'll keep my hopes low and expect the worst. The price and DLC is already something that is turning me off. I hope they keep the mod tools in it was SCURKS and BATs that made the previous Simcities everlasting.
And yes, I'm a fanboy of Simcity. But nowhere have I said I want the gameplay to stay the same for ages. Fans including me have complained about gameplay features that they want in the previous Simcities for quite some time now. Any additional gameplay or new gameplay added would be extremely welcome without dumbing down the whole system or cutting it up and releasing it as DLC. There's always a difference in that.

Well, you asked y people hated EA, I guess I gave you more than enough reasons.
As I've said, the prices for EA games and DLCs are high at the beginning. But they drop down pretty quickly, contrary to the other companies games.

This is why I don't buy EA games day 1 (nobody's forcing you to do that either), but I wait only several months, and the game is for 1/3 of the base price. At least here, maybe in your region EA games remain expensive after long time.

And why do you hate the company who's buying, not the companys that sold Bioware, for instance? It's a mutual thing, you know? You have to sell yourself, to be bought.

Also, Bioware made 3 great franchasises, two entirely under EA (SWTOR and Dragon Age) and you hate EA because they made one bad game (DA2). Well, bad game to you, many people enjoyed it.

The started Dragon Age Origins under EA. The only big company who let restoration of "hardcore tactic RPGs" to happen. One of the few games that weren't "dumbed down" in modern gaming history.

And if you hate EA, Ubi, Acti, Capcom (?) so much, what new games do you play, for christ's sake? ;)
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keeveek: The started Dragon Age Origins under EA.
No.
You're not referring to E3 2004 annoucement when until 2007 we still knew nothing about that game ?

I don't want to know how ugly this game could be without EA's money.

Well, maybe I'm wrong, but I haven't heard anything interesting about Dragon Age before EA. It looked bizarre to me back then. But that's just memories. And im pretty sure they would never complete the game on their own.
Post edited April 19, 2012 by keeveek
...may I ask why are you so defensive on EA's behalf?
Because I don't understand all the hate.

I don't understand how EA could be chosen as the worst company ever in United States.

I have like 30 games made by EA and almost all of them I like.

When I see arguments like "EA is the worst company eveeeeeer because they RUINED Dragon Age 2 / Mass Effect 3 ending" I just puke.

And in my opinion, every other major gaming company is far worse than EA. That's why.
I may understand why some people hate EA for their "buy everyone" policy. But that's just business...
Post edited April 19, 2012 by keeveek
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keeveek: The started Dragon Age Origins under EA. The only big company who let restoration of "hardcore tactic RPGs" to happen. One of the few games that weren't "dumbed down" in modern gaming history.

And if you hate EA, Ubi, Acti, Capcom (?) so much, what new games do you play, for christ's sake? ;)
Guess what, I'm a Baldur's Gate fanboy as well. And because of that I've kept track of Dragon Age Origins religiously the very first day it was announced. IIRC, DAO was first announced in 2004 or in early 2005. Development started on DAO way before EA even bought Bioware. DAO was released in 2009. What was the first thing EA did when DAO was close to release then: delay the PC version for 6 months to coincide with the console releases.

I still buy their games selectively even though I hate them. I bought ME3 to finish up on the storyline. I buy Blizzard games but I've completely boycotted COD. I even have recent Ubisoft games Anno 2070 and HOMM6, guess I suck at boycotting. I don't hate Capcom, I'm still grateful to them for PC SFIV.
They don't like EA, they already gave their reason. What else can you ask? Well, it's pointless.
@keeveek

Aren't you a nice little corporate agent. Your under-title 'insurance agent' fits really well.

DLC do not drop in price. The main game drops in price so that more DLC can be sold. Or you can buy collectors editons with the DLC for the full price of the game a year after first release.

Why are their prices dropping so fast? Because they sell millions and millions of games.

New games i played lately? Legend of Grimrock, Lone Survivor and Avernum. All very good and all very big-publisher free.

Have a nice day at work dear sarari-man
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torqual76: snip
You meant DLCs for bioware games. They remain expensive, I agree. Bioware points go on sale from time to time, though.

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wormholewizards: They don't like EA, they already gave their reason. What else can you ask? Well, it's pointless.
Your post is pointless beyond common sense, but yet you wrote it.
Post edited April 19, 2012 by keeveek