I would have found that to be an interesting line of thought if BFG edition actually changed anything. Which it didn't - the game looks exactly the same, gameplay is slower, but nothing most people would recognize, and the only real change is the flashlight. It doesn't even deserve to be called an enhanced edition given how little it actually does change (except for completely breaking mod compatibility, of course)

So did my brother and I agree with him.
And Lucas is one demented lying prick by now. I mean, whenever he comments on the original movies he's basically lying, taking the real fans for complete morons. It's funny that most of the Star Wars video games are more true to the franchise than anything Lucas has created since the original trilogy. And actually I feel similarly about what's happening to Doom now with fans showing more respect for the original games than the creators themselves.
Neither do the edited versions of Star Wars. And come on, at least the BFG edition doesn't look worse unlike the edited SW movies.

Well they've at least tried!

I still have the original Doom3+Roe discs - and i will hold on to them. I do not like the way Bethesta-Id release an inferior, steam-only version. It all went bad when they merged with Zenimax.

When I realised that Skyrim only were to be a subscribtion software via steam, i wrote a lengthy message directly to bethesda, suggesting them to make it available via gog and other distributors too. I also told them they would loose me and many other people as customers, if they continued to support steam as their only way of distribution.

They totally ignored my mail - they did not even bother to send me an answer.
Arrogance at it's finest, if you ask me.

As far as i am concerned, they can go f...ly a kite.

They are off my buy list until they start to offer products under fair conditions.

Don't buy their products!

I remember Doom 3 being dirt cheap, some years ago.

During a sale, yeah. But regularly the BFG edition is indeed cheaper than the doom pack was.

But does it include everything that the Doom Pack had?

Is Ultimate Doom the original or the HD version released on XBLA? I'm seriously thinking about buying Doom HD on XBLA just for the split-screen 4 players coop.

I had a strong feeling that was the case. That's fucked up. :(

They could have quelled a lot of the anger by bundling copies of Doom 3 and Resurrection of Evil for people who buy BFG. Even if they made it mandatory to buy BFG in order to get the original versions, the original Doom 3 was $20 on Steam, and getting the original games together cost $25, while BFG is $30. People would still buy BFG, if only for the original versions.

We wouldn't have the shitstorm we have now, people could choose what version of Doom 3 they want to play, the suits wouldn't have to worry about cannibalizing BFG sales, we'd all be pretty happy. It shouldn't surprise me that they'd make such a stupid mistake, but bundling the originals with BFG seems like a no-brainer. What do they have to lose? People who buy BFG neglecting it and playing the originals? Less interest in modding BFG? So greedy and idiotic. Man, id has really turned to shit.

I knew all of that. One of the reasons I wanted BFG was for No Rest for the Living. I imagine somebody ported those levels to PC already anyway, but I'd never gotten around to looking. I mostly wanted BFG to check out the changes and play the Lost Mission. Unfortunately, the footage of saw of Lost Mission wasn't particularly impressive, and this whole removal of games from their catalog isn't something to reward them for either.

What I was wondering is whether they give you any of the classic Doom games on your account. I'm going to assume that's a no at this point.

They're looking for options? I know, how about bundle uncensored Ultimate Doom, Doom II, Master Levels, Final Doom, Doom 3, and Resurrection of Evil with BFG for $30. That's roughly how much I paid for the Super Pack, which came with a hell of a lot more.

AFAIK it's the XBLA version. Which is censured. But I don't have the BFG edition (I already had the ID pack and paying $20 for the BFG looks like very poor value to me).

Are you talking about the separate $10 U.DOOM on Steam? That's the original DOS version.

*gives Bethesda the middle finger*

You don't. The secret switch in level two exists, but will actually get you back to level 1 for some odd reason.

I think the worst about it all is that there's no news so far of the BFG being patched in the near future, to fix this and other problems. :(

Doom 3... people actually care about that game? :P

The system requirements are higher, but I think pretty much anybody with a rig built in the last 6 years. My current Dual core 1.6ghz can run it just fine. Same goes for GPUs, any computer people are likely to be running should handle it fine.