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Fuzzyfireball: BFG Edition is running on id Tech 5, I'm not sure how many mods would be compatible with it.
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Fenixp: Yeah I understand that, in fact that was one of my first points against BFG edition. But if you get Doom 3 for free along with it, you also get a game compatible with mods.
I don't think you get Doom 3 with it, since they still have it up for sale, you just have to pay $100 for the id pack to get it.

If someone here who bought BFG Edition and didn't have the original wants to clear that up, I'd be interested to know... As far as I know, You get the Id Tech 5 version with ROE, and the XBLA censored versions of DOOM 1 and 2.

Really, it hurts my head trying to figure out why they did that to the original, Final Doom and Master levels.
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Fuzzyfireball: Really, it hurts my head trying to figure out why they did that to the original, Final Doom and Master levels.
Because they're idiots.

I know, it's not a great explanation, but the only one that makes sense.

EDIT: Also, I don't see the Id pack, either. As of right now, there's no way at all to buy the original Doom 3 here. Though that might be some regional restrictions at work again.
Post edited October 20, 2012 by bazilisek
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Fuzzyfireball: Really, it hurts my head trying to figure out why they did that to the original, Final Doom and Master levels.
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bazilisek: Because they're idiots. I know, it's not a great explanation, but the only one that makes sense.
Yeah, no doubt, this is very very very idiotic.

Also, I just noticed they removed the Doom pack too.
from what i heard its only worth it if your getting it on console, and slightly more if on ps3
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bazilisek: Because they're idiots. I know, it's not a great explanation, but the only one that makes sense.
It's quite possible that they just fear the direct competition that is modding scene, and rightly so. I'm gonna get a Doom 3 crack and back the game up, just in case.
Do you own the original Doom 3 on disc?
I'm assuming anyone who bought the original versions on Steam still has them, so I don't see a huuuuuuge deal there with them removing them for now. I mean it's stupid and insulting but anyone interested in the originals surely owns them by now, right?

In any event, still ridiculous.
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Kunovski: wow, I've just read that Doom 3 BFG doesn't support Win XP, can someone please confirm???
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Fuzzyfireball: Yeah, the system requirements don't list it. Probably because they switched the engine to id tech 5.
RAGE runs fine on WinXP though. Bizarre.
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ShogunDarius: from what i heard its only worth it if your getting it on console, and slightly more if on ps3
That was my impression. Doom 3 came out before the Xbox360 and had to be severely squeezed to fit on the original Xbox. I see this as a more faithful release of the PC Doom 3 for consoles in anticipation of Doom 4. The PC version is just along for the ride.
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bazilisek: Because they're idiots. I know, it's not a great explanation, but the only one that makes sense.
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Fenixp: It's quite possible that they just fear the direct competition that is modding scene, and rightly so. I'm gonna get a Doom 3 crack and back the game up, just in case.
Do not attribute to malice what could just as easily be explained by stupidity. If Zenimax was worried about competition they would never have agreed to open source Doom 3 a year or two ago.
Post edited October 20, 2012 by Snickersnack
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StingingVelvet: I mean it's stupid and insulting but anyone interested in the originals surely owns them by now, right? In any event, still ridiculous.
It's more about the fact that this could pretty much kill the modding scene. I know of a few people who bought Doom 3 recently because of mods - but BFG edition just won't support them.
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StingingVelvet: I mean it's stupid and insulting but anyone interested in the originals surely owns them by now, right?
I don't, actually. I was thinking of grabbing the Doom pack eventually when it goes on sale, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

I'll probably pick this up anyway when it's cheap and acquire the originals from somewhere else, so I'm not terribly bothered by it, but it still is a weird decision.
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Snickersnack: Do not attribute to malice what could just as easily be explained by stupidity. If Zenimax was worried about competition they would never have agreed to open source Doom 3 a year or two ago.
What happened year or two ago happened year or two ago. Stupidity is an easy explanation, but removing Doom 3 from catalogue requires more effort than just leaving it lying around.
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StingingVelvet: I mean it's stupid and insulting but anyone interested in the originals surely owns them by now, right? In any event, still ridiculous.
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Fenixp: It's more about the fact that this could pretty much kill the modding scene. I know of a few people who bought Doom 3 recently because of mods - but BFG edition just won't support them.
Quite honestly, I was mostly interested in Doom 3 because of the Dark Mod, but that's apparently going standalone anyway.
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lowyhong: Do you own the original Doom 3 on disc?
I only have it on Steam, which is now making me sad :-/
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bazilisek: Quite honestly, I was mostly interested in Doom 3 because of the Dark Mod, but that's apparently going standalone anyway.
Stop squeezing between my edits!
Post edited October 20, 2012 by Fenixp
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Fenixp: Stop squeezing between my edits!
You're squeezing between mine! I'm trying to double post here and you youngsters show no respect!
So, someone showed me an interesting Carmack tweet.

https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/259369191369502720

"Got approval for GPL release of Doom 3 BFG code (minus third party bits)! @idBrianHarris has already done most of the work."