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General discussion (archive)Disappointing gaming purchases of 2012(134 posts)(134 posts)
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Posted January 01, 2013
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Navagon: I don't know what you're trying to say here. That people should have to buy games twice to be able to keep playing them? That people should like waiting however many years it takes for the games that EA kills off to become available on GOG? Or maybe you just think that games should not be bought until a decade later when they're finally available on GOG?

Whatever it is you're trying to say it's not something that the majority of people are going to be happy with.
I think the fact that Dos games don't run so dandy on Win 8 is not EAs fault...

Your are making a lot of ridiculous assumptions, but if that floats your boat fine.
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Navagon: Don't think that you're so secure. EA have already begun killing off single player content for consoles and PCs. Namely Saboteur DLC. Which doesn't sound like much until you realise that they're killing single player content for no reason other than because they can.
Yeah, because you can run servers nowadays on love and sunshine. EA is simply shutting down those service to hurt us.
Post edited January 01, 2013 by SimonG
Posted January 01, 2013
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Roberttitus: For all the shit PC exclusive gamers talk about console gamers, at least we don't have to deal with shit like this. You buy a game... it fucking works until the system dies or the game gets destroyed. This (along with the fact that I don't have the money for a high end computer &/or to keep updating them every year or so) is the major reason that I mainly play games on consoles.
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Navagon: Don't think that you're so secure. EA have already begun killing off single player content for consoles and PCs. Namely Saboteur DLC. Which doesn't sound like much until you realise that they're killing single player content for no reason other than because they can.
Yes.... because virtual tits are a BIG loss.....
Posted January 01, 2013
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Elmofongo: Dude I bought GTX 560ti for my brothers new desktop for Battlefield 3 and it was running OK and the game was good, I mean how is it not a PC made game first and formost, what does make a PC dedicated game anyway?
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Navagon: It runs great. Even on Ultra. They did a good job on the engine. No question about that. The shoddiest thing about it is need to run the game from a web page of all things. There's nothing on that site which couldn't have been incorporated directly into the game and hasn't been for many a title before this.

The real issue is EA's willingness to kill off titles that are a couple of years old, and how easy having a web page as your means of accessing the game makes that incredibly easy. They can just update the page and BAM! Dead game.

So maybe it's not merely a matter of shoddiness, maybe it's more a matter of shoddiness resulting from EA's untrustworthiness and the rather open way they implement DRM in a manner that clarifies the real motivation behind the existence of all DRM. Control and the increased profits gained from exercising that control.

There's no other explanation for why they've done this. They've made the game as killable as possible. You can't deny that when they've created the worst means of starting a AAA game in the history of gaming.
OK that I understand, but hey "we got to protect our game from the piratez man".

Peer to peer needs to come back.
Posted January 01, 2013
Ace of Spades was a wee bit of a turd. It started as a free to play shooter where the terrain was made up of blocks and you could manipulate it a-la Minecraft. Then it was sold to another dev, who made it completely unplayable, then slapped a $10 price tag on it. I guess that'll teach me to check if a formerly free to play game has been royally ass fucked before I buy it.
Posted January 01, 2013
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SimonG: I think the fact that Dos games don't run so dandy on Win 8 is not EAs fault...

Your are making a lot of ridiculous assumptions, but if that floats your boat fine.
You're not making any sense at all. Did you reply to the wrong bit or did you take the wrong pills?
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SimonG: Yeah, because you can run servers nowadays on love and sunshine. EA is simply shutting down those service to hurt us.
Single player DLC that's already installed and only requires activation is a major server drain? If hen simply remove the need to activate it. That's the reasonable solution.
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Roberttitus: Yes.... because virtual tits are a BIG loss.....
Is that all it was? In any case it sets a bad precedent even if unto itself it's relatively inconsequential.
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Elmofongo: OK that I understand, but hey "we got to protect our game from the piratez man".
Heh. It's sad to think that they might actually try and use that as an excuse. They've got away with it for so long that they probably think that even when it's this blatant they can still fool people.
Post edited January 01, 2013 by Navagon
Posted January 01, 2013
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SimonG: I think the fact that Dos games don't run so dandy on Win 8 is not EAs fault...

Your are making a lot of ridiculous assumptions, but if that floats your boat fine.
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Navagon: You're not making any sense at all. Did you reply to the wrong bit or did you take the wrong pills?
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SimonG: Yeah, because you can run servers nowadays on love and sunshine. EA is simply shutting down those service to hurt us.
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Navagon: Single player DLC that's already installed and only requires activation is a major server drain? If hen simply remove the need to activate it. That's the reasonable solution.
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Roberttitus: Yes.... because virtual tits are a BIG loss.....
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Navagon: Is that all it was? In any case it sets a bad precedent even if unto itself it's relatively inconsequential.
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Elmofongo: OK that I understand, but hey "we got to protect our game from the piratez man".
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Navagon: Heh. It's sad to think that they might actually try and use that as an excuse. They've got away with it for so long that they probably think that even when it's this blatant they can still fool people.
But may I ask why having go into a web browser to play the game makes more at risk of being killed than just shutting down the online server for their games like they did with their sports games (and Sims 2 this month)

On a side note: I am surprised EA and Activision has not shut off the servers for Call of Duty 1 and up and Battlefield 2 and up? How long until those games online play is gone?
Post edited January 01, 2013 by Elmofongo
Posted January 01, 2013
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Roberttitus: For all the shit PC exclusive gamers talk about console gamers, at least we don't have to deal with shit like this. You buy a game... it fucking works until the system dies or the game gets destroyed.
Unfortunately sometimes that (system dies) can happen quite fast. My first Playstation got broken quite fast even though I handled it with care. Suddenly its CD-ROM drive just ceased to work. And my big brother was just asking the other day whether Wii-U is fully backwards compatible with their earlier Wii which got broken, leaving them with a bunch of unplayable Wii games.

I took care of my Playstation problem by buying a PS2 which thankfully was backwards compatible. Unfortunately that seems to be the end of the line now, as I just read the other day that the manufacturing of PS2 has ceased for good now, ie. you apparently can buy them used from now on. And PS3 can't run my PS One (nor PS2?) games.

Interestingly, it seems it might be the PC which is the savior again, as it apparently has fully working PS One emulators, and maybe even PS2 emulators.

And yeah, I consider digital DRM-free games much more future-proof solution than physical games, even if my physical games (both on consoles and PC) seem to have easily outlived the systems they were originally bought for. E.g. all my original Playstation games seem to be still working.
Posted January 01, 2013
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Elmofongo: But may I ask why having go into a web browser to play the game makes more at risk of being killed than just shutting down the online server for their games like they did with their sports games (and Sims 2 this month)

On a side note: I am surprised EA and Activision has not shut off the servers for Call of Duty 1 and up and Battlefield 2 and up? How long until those games online play is gone?
This way they can kill the single player too. You need to go to the website even to play the campaign. I'd imagine that goes for the expansions too.

I think the reason they haven't shut those games down is because they're still selling and are probably popular enough to cause an uproar if they were shut down.

Plus, I'm not aware of Activision going anywhere near as far with shutting down servers as EA have. Despite my reservations regarding their more controlling approach adopted since MW2 they haven't done more than kill off mods to make their over-priced map packs more palatable.
Posted January 01, 2013
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Elmofongo: But may I ask why having go into a web browser to play the game makes more at risk of being killed than just shutting down the online server for their games like they did with their sports games (and Sims 2 this month)

On a side note: I am surprised EA and Activision has not shut off the servers for Call of Duty 1 and up and Battlefield 2 and up? How long until those games online play is gone?
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Navagon: This way they can kill the single player too. You need to go to the website even to play the campaign. I'd imagine that goes for the expansions too.

I think the reason they haven't shut those games down is because they're still selling and are probably popular enough to cause an uproar if they were shut down.

Plus, I'm not aware of Activision going anywhere near as far with shutting down servers as EA have. Despite my reservations regarding their more controlling approach adopted since MW2 they haven't done more than kill off mods to make their over-priced map packs more palatable.
Now I am going off topic and show off my dickish side when I say this:

All this shit that happened to Battlefield, Call of Duty, and Medal of Honor makes me worry for the Arma games...because what if Arma dumbs down to just a Battlefield clone and attracts the Multiplayer audiance with Mod support.

From what I seen the Arma fans are upset that DayZ ruined the community...
Posted January 01, 2013
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Elmofongo: Now I am going off topic and show off my dickish side when I say this:

All this shit that happened to Battlefield, Call of Duty, and Medal of Honor makes me worry for the Arma games...because what if Arma dumbs down to just a Battlefield clone and attracts the Multiplayer audiance with Mod support.

From what I seen the Arma fans are upset that DayZ ruined the community...
Ruined how? Brought in a load of newbies?
Anyway, now that DayZ is going standalone maybe things will return to normal?
Posted January 01, 2013
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Roberttitus: Yes.... because virtual tits are a BIG loss.....
Deflecting the fact that console games lose out too by mocking boobs doesn't make you look witty, just ignorant.

If you think PC is where content is being lost you're naive. And when we do lose it at least we have an open platform which makes it possible for the community to preserve it. Try that on XBOX.
Posted January 01, 2013
Starting from the top: Mass Effect 3, DIablo 3, Max Payne 3, Assassins Creed 3 and Finally Farcry 3 (what was it with last year with games having 3 in their title being not so good)
Posted January 01, 2013
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mcneil_1: Farcry 3
What's wrong with Far Cry 3?
Posted January 01, 2013
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mcneil_1: Farcry 3
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Fenixp: What's wrong with Far Cry 3?
Just the endings (and a handful of bugs).
The rest of the game is very good.
Posted January 01, 2013
I thought Max Payne 3 was really awesome. I liked the other two too (although first is the least awesome)
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