JudasIscariot: I am European by birth, American from the fact I lived in the States from 9 years old until 31 years of age so my thinking is more American, and European again by location. I feel like I am qualified to put my two Eurocents in.

What I think keevek is referring to is that when Poland was under Communist rule just about everything was government-owned or ran. This included a lot of PGRs, which would translate to GFs or Government Farms, government-owned factories, and anything else you can think possibly imagine. During Poland's Communist period if one PGR or factory were failing because of whatever reason the government would simply funnel some funds from one prospering factory or farm until the failing business got back on its feet again.

Fast forward to today.

Poland has entered the EU. Several countries in the EU are going belly-up. This includes Portugal, Ireland, Spain, and Greece. These countries get bailout packages around 70-90 BILLION Euros a pop. For a better perspective 1 $ = 0.71399 Euro. Guess who pays for the bailout packages for these countries? Other member countries such as Poland, Germany, France etc. etc. So imagine if you, living in the state of North Dakota, had to pay YOUR tax dollars to bail out California.

keeveek: In Sweden gov. may take your child when:
- you criticise them
- you have no refrigerator (or how it's spelled...) in the house
- you live in poor conditions
- you yelled at child in public.

Remember. In modern communism your child is NOT yours. It belongs to the society.

Demut: Ah, a Spaniard. How’s the revolution going, comrade :B ?

Tulivu: Haha! Funny memory: my parents warning me not to talk about being spanked or I'd be molested by a foster father. On a serious note, I even worry about neoNazis having their children taken away because it sets a precedent that you can take away a child just because you don't agree with them.

keeveek: keeveek: And you have nothing wrong with the fact that Germany supports all poor countries with YOUR money without asking?

tejozaszaszas: What revolution?

tejozaszaszas: Pd: Dont get this as a nationalistic message, I don´t give a fuck about national pride, especially the spanish one.

keeveek: And I've heard that you are censoring video games from blood in Germany. That sucks man.

keeveek: PS. There were several cases in Germany, when German court forbid Polish-speaking parents (in separation) to speak and teach Polish language to their children. Yes, in year 2010.

keeveek: And you have nothing wrong with the fact that Germany supports all poor countries with YOUR money without asking?

keeveek: Here's one for you: In Poland only 1 person out of 1 000 has a gun (not counting Policemen). In Switzerland AFAIK the numbers are about 300/1000

tejozaszaszas: Like yours.

Demut: Oh and don’t me wrong, I don’t think that a free market is a bad thing but rather that it’s an oxymoron. For me “free” implies “unrestricted” and where that leads to was shown during the Industrial Revolution.

Demut: While we probably agree on the goals I think your proposition is not the way to go. MORE regulations (or how about properly enforcing the existing ones?) for corporations, less regulations for upstart businesses. But yeah, almost every government on this planet is probably corrupt as fuck.

tejozaszaszas: Pd: Dont get this as a nationalistic message, I don´t give a fuck about national pride, especially the spanish one.

keeveek: To run a business in EU you need to have permission and fill many forms. To run a bakery , you have to fill at least 30 different forms.

nondeplumage: Communism and socialism: bad. But anyone who has actually read The Communist Manifesto knows it is downright frightening. Socialism is a watered down version of communism, but still says fuck you just as hard to the individual while trying to convince them its to their benefit.