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While in the end I will patiently wait for an August 31st release date I wish i could've upped my $1 pledge for the original Kickstarter. I was going to pledge for the game but due to finances at the time I backed only at $1, but that was just too low to upgrade later I guess when they gave the upgrade option after it all. But either way I can purchase it on or before August 31st.

I beg the question though; will we need Galaxy to run this, even though galaxy was supposed to be completely optional? Or am I getting confused as to how Galaxy works? I know you won't need it to run games after the initial download, but from what I've read I thought every game was going to be available on the website as well as Galaxy. I

I do plan on using Galaxy though!
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Reaper9988: So there is no way to actually disconnect from the chat or never connect?

Not a fan of the whole everything needs to be online thing, if i want to talk to random people i join trade chat in WOW.
If you're drunk the banter can be even fun.

If I'm playing a single player RPG like D:OS I'd rather be left alone :P.
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six-: Not sure how things are in the steam version but gog one there are only that you can shut off global chat and hide the whole window, not sure if the toggle for global is just not showing the others talk or if it would not go online at all for it.

D:OS actually seem to be more multiplayer focused than any other rpg that comes to mind. Sure you have nwn with multiplayer servers and all that but for the main campaign I don't think there is anything that is this good.
I'd compare it to baldurs gate but both players got as much say in what is going on, well the player with the better convincing skills would be able to decide more. Also one player could decide to go and save the day while the other could split off and murder the town population instead.
Not sure I'll even try out the multiplayer though as I'm more of a sp person and the choice to have an ai personality instead of another person to banter with works really nice.
How does the thing with the AI banter actually work ? Do you have to pick their AI personality in char creation.
I noticed there is an option for no AI too.
I backed "Wasteland 2", "Shadowrun Returns", "Giana Sisters Twisted Dreams", "Battleworld Kronos", "Divinity Original Sin", "Torment Tides of Numenera", "Pillars of Eternity" and two smaller games.

From those nine games, four games are released now and "Battleworld Kronos" was the only one without any hassle (and that also got released one day after Steam - if I remember right).

I guess, one thing I lerned from that experience is: don't give people money to get their project done and then expect them to treat you somehow "privileged".

Because they won't!

At this time I still cannot switch my Steam (Beta) key of D:OS to a GOG key.

As I was assured, I could - back then, when Larian said: "Come on, join the Beta on Steam...and don't worry - your Steam key will expire automatically and you will then be able to choose a GOG key for your game".

But then they (Larian) decided: "Hey, wanna know what? - We thought it would be a great idea, to keep the Steam key, instead of let it expire - but don't you worry - you will be able to choose your GOG key sometime later".

To quote directly:"In the past, we've said that launch will nullify your current Steam Early Access key and provide you with a new one for the full release of the game. This process has been amended..."

And then, as a reaction to angry GOGgers, who can't register their already paid game, I read this:
Quote: "...the only reason you can't redeem your GOG key is that your Steam key is in use. People who didn't use their Steam key can already redeem their GOG key."!!!

Am I the only one who sees the fault here?

Well done, Larian...very well done!

Wanna play a little guessing game?
Ok then, guess whose next project I'm definitely not gonna back up with my money?
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six-: Not sure how things are in the steam version but gog one there are only that you can shut off global chat and hide the whole window, not sure if the toggle for global is just not showing the others talk or if it would not go online at all for it.

D:OS actually seem to be more multiplayer focused than any other rpg that comes to mind. Sure you have nwn with multiplayer servers and all that but for the main campaign I don't think there is anything that is this good.
I'd compare it to baldurs gate but both players got as much say in what is going on, well the player with the better convincing skills would be able to decide more. Also one player could decide to go and save the day while the other could split off and murder the town population instead.
Not sure I'll even try out the multiplayer though as I'm more of a sp person and the choice to have an ai personality instead of another person to banter with works really nice.
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Reaper9988: How does the thing with the AI banter actually work ? Do you have to pick their AI personality in char creation.
I noticed there is an option for no AI too.
Going no ai makes it as a multiplayer game but since you are solo you get to decide the comments from both the characters, for the real power players I guess. There do seem that some ai options are late as there are only Loyal and random to choose from right now. Not sure if random takes on a random ai personality or if the personality is varied on each and every banter.
The banters are generally about what action to take and you can either agree or disagree with whoever goes first. Agree just ends it right there and disagree and you can try and sway their mind and whoever wins that get's their will done, ie save or kill someone. Then of course there are banters that just set personality too and merit no actual actions. After each one both characters tend to get social stats but as of now I am not aware of how they affect things.
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Licurg: Slightly off-topic, but does anyone know if Larian is gonna make another Divinity game with gameplay like Divinity 2 ?
I hope not! :-p

I am a fan of divine divinity and larian from the beggining but I just couldn't play divinity 2 so far.. it just not my cup of tea, actually I prefer isometric crpgs (& arpgs). Anyway, I doubt anyone, outside larian team, would have info about future plans.
Post edited July 01, 2014 by Vythonaut
What baffles me is - how are the ones that chose GOG going to get updates until August?

I'm sure many chose GOG and what does Larian plan to do with all these people, they of course can't just give them a GOG key to shut them up and not give them any updates till the GOG version is released.

Secondly, if those GOG KS backers get updates, what else would be the reason the game isn't available to the general public here?

4:33pm atm in Poland and still no word from GOG.
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Ganni1987: 4:33pm atm in Poland and still no word from GOG.
I suspect, or at least hope, they're working like hell to turn this situation around. Maybe lawyers had to get involved to rewrite a contract or something.
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BreOl72: [...]

And then, as a reaction to angry GOGgers, who can't register their already paid game, I read this:
Quote: "...the only reason you can't redeem your GOG key is that your Steam key is in use. People who didn't use their Steam key can already redeem their GOG key."!!!

Am I the only one who sees the fault here?

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At least you actually used your Alpha/ Beta Steam key. There are folks, myself included, that never redeemed nor requested a single Steam key and still can't switch them back to GOG codes as was my initial and only choice from the beginning.


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Ganni1987: What baffles me is - how are the ones that chose GOG going to get updates until August?

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I fear that we won't.

As for GOG's silence - that's unfortunately nth new.
Post edited July 01, 2014 by HypersomniacLive
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six-: Going no ai makes it as a multiplayer game but since you are solo you get to decide the comments from both the characters, for the real power players I guess. There do seem that some ai options are late as there are only Loyal and random to choose from right now. Not sure if random takes on a random ai personality or if the personality is varied on each and every banter.
The banters are generally about what action to take and you can either agree or disagree with whoever goes first. Agree just ends it right there and disagree and you can try and sway their mind and whoever wins that get's their will done, ie save or kill someone. Then of course there are banters that just set personality too and merit no actual actions. After each one both characters tend to get social stats but as of now I am not aware of how they affect things.
That does sound interesting I always liked the banter in Baldurs gate and Dragon age 1 and stuff.
Oh well I'm calmer now maybe I will actually play some when i get home.

And gee the quoting in here is messing me up.
Post edited July 01, 2014 by Reaper9988
Damn shame. I'd considered backing D:OS, but my budget was a bit tight back then. I got really excited about it again discussing it with a friend yesterday, and since Larian always seemed like a cool studio I decided to just get it ASAP (I rarely buy games at release).

I came close to buying the Collector's Edition on Amazon because of nice physical goodies, only to find out via user FAQ and reviews that it needed Steam. The Steam requirement hadn't been brought to attention by Amazon in any way for the standard edition, you could only realize it was there if you took a really close look at the CE.

I was rather disappointed until I remembered that DRM-free D:OS had been one of the GOG flagship titles during the regional pricing crisis, so I decided to come here and buy an "expensive" new game for full price for the first time. What I found was this mess... :(

Now my enthusiasm about this game is pretty much down to zero. There isn't any way for me to get the game DRM-free until almost September, and given the fact that there's little to no actual explanation as to why that is I don't really feel inclined not to wait a little longer, unitl it's on sale.

This whole situation is an all around pretty shameful example of failed communication. And regardless of wether the blame lies with Larian or GOG or Amazon or whomever, the results are the same: customers are pissed off, trust as well as sales are lost. I refuse to believe either of those was inevitable.
Post edited July 01, 2014 by TheRealJayDee
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BreOl72: [...]

And then, as a reaction to angry GOGgers, who can't register their already paid game, I read this:
Quote: "...the only reason you can't redeem your GOG key is that your Steam key is in use. People who didn't use their Steam key can already redeem their GOG key."!!!

Am I the only one who sees the fault here?

[...]
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HypersomniacLive: At least you actually used your Alpha/ Beta Steam key. There are folks, myself included, that never redeemed nor requested a single Steam key and still can't switch them back to GOG codes as was my initial and only choice from the beginning.


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Ganni1987: What baffles me is - how are the ones that chose GOG going to get updates until August?

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HypersomniacLive: I fear that we won't.

As for GOG's silence - that's unfortunately nth new.
I really really hope Larian doesn't go that low as to not provide patches for 2 month.

Like really reallly reallly reallly reallly. Don't crush the last bit of faith i got for you Larian.
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Licurg: Slightly off-topic, but does anyone know if Larian is gonna make another Divinity game with gameplay like Divinity 2 ?
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Vythonaut: I hope not! :-p

I am a fan of divine divinity and larian from the beggining but I just couldn't play divinity 2 so far.. it just not my cup of tea, actually I prefer isometric crpgs (& arpgs). Anyway, I doubt anyone, outside larian team, would have info about future plans.
Give it another try, it's a really good game :P
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amok: Apparently not. the gOg version available to KS backers have fully working MP via direct IP and Lan. So Galaxy is then not required for MP, only as a matchmaking service.
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Matruchus: Reposting this link again: http://www.gog.com/forum/general/coming_soon_divinity_original_sin/post77

This is not the official release version yet.
It should be. That is what people are arguing over. No reason to wait for Galaxy to release the game. Add Galaxy support when Galaxy is released. Meanwhile release the same GOG version that backers have access to, to the general GOG public.
So I am all ready for vacation. Got my beer and snacks. Got the kids playing upstairs. Time to download my newly released game..... WTF! Seriously, what the hell gog. I love you guys, but this is a clusterf**k of a bad idea. It really sucks because i was genuinely excited about this one. What idiot thought waiting for Galaxy was a good idea? I can buy on steam (and probably will) but I have always given my business to gog where possible first. It's really sad because some of the steps gog gas taken lately really makes me question their business model. The lack of proper communication from gog is worst of all though.
Like most of the people here I'm waiting for it and always prefer GOG. But this is a mess. We don't know where the game is and when we will get it and under which conditions. A comment what is going on would be the least.

Simple tell us:

When and how do we got D:OS?

This goes for GOG and Larian.