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Posted May 27, 2011
Well, that's $40 I'll be spending on something else then.
Posted May 27, 2011
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GameRager: Actually the obtaining of cracks is against the EULA...not U.S. law, or at least not criminal law. Maybe civil law at most. And again, you won't go to jail over cracking your games. When I said it's not illegal I meant it's not criminally illegal. They can try suing you but that's about it, and most time the judge will dismiss the case.

And yes, I own a copy of the game.......which I will modify how I like with cracks/etc. It's against EULA but that doesn't make it criminally illegal or right.

Actually many here also state they crack games they've bought to remove the drm, and recommend it sometimes as well.
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cjrgreen: None of that makes it right; and members really should educate themselves on what the DMCA and similar laws actually say about cracks (specifically, bypassing a technological mechanism of access protection) before recommending their use.
Oh just stop it already. I get it, you're anti-piracy/crack to the point it's made you blind. No need to try and discredit me so much though.

And yes, it is right. You're promised the right to make a backup in your EULA btw, and to do that you have to crack the game or bypass the drm.
Posted May 27, 2011
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Foxhack: Well, that's $40 I'll be spending on something else then.
We still have time, there is every chance Capcom might listen to reason and not employ this dipshit DRM. Then again they are Japanese. Japanese companies are not big on listening to customers.
Posted May 27, 2011
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Foxhack: Well, that's $40 I'll be spending on something else then.
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Delixe: We still have time, there is every chance Capcom might listen to reason and not employ this dipshit DRM. Then again they are Japanese. Japanese companies are not big on listening to customers.
They did this to Bionic Commando Rearmed 2.

They wouldn't release Dead Rising 1 for PC outside of Japan.

They farmed out Resident Evil 4's original PC port to monkeys sitting at keyboards.

CAPCOM HAS NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT TO DO ABOUT PC GAMING. I'm done with them. :|
Posted May 27, 2011
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Foxhack: CAPCOM HAS NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT TO DO ABOUT PC GAMING.
Sadly true. I think the same can be said of any Japanese company. They are aware of this thing called a PC and they know it makes money for people but they are confused as to where the money button is.
Posted May 27, 2011
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Foxhack: CAPCOM HAS NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT TO DO ABOUT PC GAMING.
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Delixe: Sadly true. I think the same can be said of any Japanese company. They are aware of this thing called a PC and they know it makes money for people but they are confused as to where the money button is.
Actually the RE 1/2/3 PC versions are pretty good.
Posted May 27, 2011
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GameRager: Actually the RE 1/2/3 PC versions are pretty good.
Yeah? The PC versions of Resident Evil 4 and Devil May Cry 3 were fucking shocking. Done by our friends Ubisoft.
Posted May 27, 2011
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Delixe: Sadly true. I think the same can be said of any Japanese company. They are aware of this thing called a PC and they know it makes money for people but they are confused as to where the money button is.
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GameRager: Actually the RE 1/2/3 PC versions are pretty good.
Which is why I only mentioned RE4. THAT game was crap upon release. I heard they fixed most of the bugs, though.
Posted May 27, 2011
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GameRager: Actually the RE 1/2/3 PC versions are pretty good.
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Foxhack: Which is why I only mentioned RE4. THAT game was crap upon release. I heard they fixed most of the bugs, though.
I like tha game actually, of course i've mainly played only the PS2/Wii versions...the Wii one being the best imo due to better graphics & controller use & extras.
Posted May 27, 2011
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Foxhack: Which is why I only mentioned RE4. THAT game was crap upon release. I heard they fixed most of the bugs, though.
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GameRager: I like tha game actually, of course i've mainly played only the PS2/Wii versions...the Wii one being the best imo due to better graphics & controller use & extras.
I'm not bashing the game. I'm bashing the crappy PC port. :P
Posted May 27, 2011
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GameRager: I like tha game actually, of course i've mainly played only the PS2/Wii versions...the Wii one being the best imo due to better graphics & controller use & extras.
The PC port was teh awfulness of horror.
Posted May 27, 2011
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cjrgreen: None of that makes it right; and members really should educate themselves on what the DMCA and similar laws actually say about cracks (specifically, bypassing a technological mechanism of access protection) before recommending their use.
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GameRager: Oh just stop it already. I get it, you're anti-piracy/crack to the point it's made you blind. No need to try and discredit me so much though.

And yes, it is right. You're promised the right to make a backup in your EULA btw, and to do that you have to crack the game or bypass the drm.
Backups are for archival purposes. That clause is in there so you can back up your hard drive without turning everything on it into a copyright violation.

Access protection and copy protection are not the same thing. Access protection covers the right to make copyrighted material viewable or playable. Copy protection covers the right to make a copy, and it's well established that you have the right to make a copy.

Nothing says you have the right to use that copy to play the game, though.

The sad part of it is, publishers use attitudes like yours to justify DRM that is ever more draconian. So you need to get over the attitude that it is ever OK to use a crack.
Posted May 27, 2011
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GameRager: Oh just stop it already. I get it, you're anti-piracy/crack to the point it's made you blind. No need to try and discredit me so much though.

And yes, it is right. You're promised the right to make a backup in your EULA btw, and to do that you have to crack the game or bypass the drm.
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cjrgreen: Backups are for archival purposes. That clause is in there so you can back up your hard drive without turning everything on it into a copyright violation.

Access protection and copy protection are not the same thing. Access protection covers the right to make copyrighted material viewable or playable. Copy protection covers the right to make a copy, and it's well established that you have the right to make a copy.

Nothing says you have the right to use that copy to play the game, though.

The sad part of it is, publishers use attitudes like yours to justify DRM that is ever more draconian. So you need to get over the attitude that it is ever OK to use a crack.
Many do cd backups, and cd or HDD backup you still have to bypass the drm to make one. Thus the rub.

No, it's about the same thing to the industry you seem to be blindly loyal to....and again to make a copy that works you need to crack out the drm or bypass it. In order to do something that they allow you have to break one of their EULA clauses.

No, they use used sales to justify it...the piracy thing is just what they use to get more to believe their spin and remain loyal to the anti-piracy/anti-cracking side. And it isn't an attitude, it's my belief and opinion...just like it's yours that one shouldn't use such things.

Again if you have nothing but blind loyalty to the corporate side of this then please stop replying as it's pointless to try to convince me your opinions based on your moral set are right to follow.
Post edited May 27, 2011 by GameRager
Posted May 27, 2011
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cjrgreen: The sad part of it is, publishers use attitudes like yours to justify DRM that is ever more draconian. So you need to get over the attitude that it is ever OK to use a crack.
... well publishers are using cracked EXE files for some digital distribution games, so they must think it's fine.

Don't believe me? Look at Max Payne on Steam...
Posted May 27, 2011
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Adzeth: The PC port was teh awfulness of horror.
The laser sight wasn't even transparent. That was shocking. It was like a red stick attached to the gun.
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