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No way!

This forum really need some moderation, some people have no respect for the good people of GOG trying to run a business for the good of all retro game fans.
Yo dawg, I heard you liked boycotts so we put a boycott in yo boycott so you can be protested while you protest.
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Lenny: No way!

This forum really need some moderation, some people have no respect for the good people of GOG trying to run a business for the good of all retro game fans.
Are you really suggesting that you want the kind of moderation that would kill this thread? Keeping things ontopic and stopping debates from degenerating into name calling would be nice. I would hate it if they started closing threads just because someone says something that could be construed as being against GOGs business interests.
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Lenny: No way!

This forum really need some moderation, some people have no respect for the good people of GOG trying to run a business for the good of all retro game fans.
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bitter_luddite: Are you really suggesting that you want the kind of moderation that would kill this thread? Keeping things ontopic and stopping debates from degenerating into name calling would be nice. I would hate it if they started closing threads just because someone says something that could be construed as being against GOGs business interests.
The answer is yes.

If someone want to boycott something that is fine. There are many ways to go about this, make it a personal boycott, put it on your blog, twitter whatever.

However I think that coming to the GOG forums and calling for a boycott of GOG just shows a lack of respect for the hard work of GOG and the sweet deals they provide for people who like old games.

If somebody doesn't like it here why do they need to be here in the first place ? Whats the point, undermine the work of GOG ? GOG sell products of digital origin and infinite supply that has otherwise gone out of production and I don't really see any good reason to call for a boycott on these guys.

Moderating these threads are perfectly acceptable as they add nothing interesting or constructive and only serve to undermine GOG. The other threads raising questions are perfectly fine but this one is garbage.
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ddmuse: I have not and will not purchase *any* EA games on GOG (or any digital vendor) until (as a consistent policy) expansions are included with EA games or offered as an upgrade.
Fine, that's your choice. Most of the grief you're catching over this thread is because of the title, I'm sure. You are perfectly entitled to spend your own money as you see fit, but the title suggests you'd like to decide how others should spend theirs. I think that's the primary reason for the extremely negative reaction you're seeing.

By all means, vote with your wallet, but don't tell others how they should vote with theirs.

That said, considering how long everybody and his cousin (including me) have been clamoring to get EA on GOG, I think boycotting them from the beginning is, pardon my French, a pretty fucking stupid thing to do (my apologies to any French people here, but such is the expression in English). That is quite the wrong signal to send them. So, does that mean you should immediately buy every EA release on GOG to send them a better signal? Of course not. Just buy the games you think are worth the asking price, and skip the ones you don't. Ignore who published them.

For instance, I haven't bought Dungeon Keeper. Why? Because I already own Dungeon Keeper Gold, which includes Deeper Dungeons. I was hoping for the GOG release to contain it as well, while hopefully also including working windows versions of both games, since they are next to impossible to get running on modern systems. As it is, it's just the DOS version of the base game, which is less than I already have, although with better ease of use.

On the other hand, I have bought Crusader: No Remorse, even though I already own that too. Why? Because the GOG version is identical to mine, only with better ease of use, so there's nothing detracting from that release for me.

I'll be getting Alpha Centauri too at some point, regardless of whether the expansion is included or not. Why? Because I don't own that game at all, so that release is undeniably better than what I already have.

That is how I choose to vote with my wallet. Let us all vote in the way we ourselves best see fit, individually.
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Lenny: If someone want to boycott something that is fine. There are many ways to go about this, make it a personal boycott, put it on your blog, twitter whatever.

However I think that coming to the GOG forums and calling for a boycott of GOG just shows a lack of respect for the hard work of GOG and the sweet deals they provide for people who like old games.

If somebody doesn't like it here why do they need to be here in the first place ? Whats the point, undermine the work of GOG ? GOG sell products of digital origin and infinite supply that has otherwise gone out of production and I don't really see any good reason to call for a boycott on these guys.

Moderating these threads are perfectly acceptable as they add nothing interesting or constructive and only serve to undermine GOG. The other threads raising questions are perfectly fine but this one is garbage.
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"Wow, so glad we have you here to police what is interesting and constructive.

And you're right: Why would I want to post here to let GOG know my view on the issue? Why not just keep silent? Just like that Ubi DRM; buying into it was the best way to let Ubisoft know that we didn't like it, right?"

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If you'd actually read my initial post, you'd realize that I'm boycotting EA on GOG. Not GOG itself. In fact, I made a rather positive statement about GOG. But why read when you can rant? Why respond to any of the things I mentioned on the last page?
Above post QFT....great post Wishbone.
@Wishbone: I agree with your point to an extent. But I never said that anyone had to join me. Looking at the title, I see what you mean. But I stand by what I wrote: If no expansions is the policy without any kind of explanation, then EA doesn't get my money.

EDIT: I do appreciate your well-written reply, but after thinking a bit on this I have to say: It's pretty ridiculous that I have to defend posting an opinion here on the forums. Sure, I'd be glad if other GOGers agreed and helped leverage getting the expansions here. But that's no more wrong or domineering than any other post. It just happens to be less popular with the vocal forum crowd.

EA wasn't the top spot of my list of publishers that I wanted to see here, but I was glad that GOG signed them. I want to see GOG stick to its guns and do well. It is *because* I care that the issue irks me so much: What should have been a great victory for GOG is shadowed by this idiocy.

I was willing to adopt a wait-and-see attitude at first. But tell me this: What possible acceptable explanation can there be for the lack of Alien Crossfire? The game has been released *many* times as the Planetary Pack. Firaxis developed both, and EA published both. I'd love if someone (preferably GOG) could explain the reason for this trend with EA games.
Post edited June 10, 2011 by ddmuse
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Wishbone: Fine, that's your choice. Most of the grief you're catching over this thread is because of the title, I'm sure. You are perfectly entitled to spend your own money as you see fit, but the title suggests you'd like to decide how others should spend theirs. I think that's the primary reason for the extremely negative reaction you're seeing.
Indeed. GOG has already made a deal with EA. At this point I figure they have to pay EA whether we by their games or not, and that's only going to hurt GOG. Not cool.
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Weclock: Nobody needs your personal opinion dude.
You came back to GOG just to post this? Seriously? After so many "Where's Weclock!" "Come back Weclock!" "Weclock is overrated!" posts, and the first thread you post in is this?

Wtf dude :(
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Fuzzyfireball: Best thread ever?
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Ristar87: If you mean the responses to the short-sighted initial post, it's up there.
Nothing will ever triumph the gdfsghdfsdghdfhgdh one.
Post edited June 10, 2011 by lowyhong
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Wishbone: That said, considering how long everybody and his cousin (including me) have been clamoring to get EA on GOG, I think boycotting them from the beginning is, pardon my French, a pretty fucking stupid thing to do (my apologies to any French people here, but such is the expression in English). That is quite the wrong signal to send them. So, does that mean you should immediately buy every EA release on GOG to send them a better signal? Of course not. Just buy the games you think are worth the asking price, and skip the ones you don't. Ignore who published them.
Indeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed.
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Namur: Oy hey, a boycott. Boy, i do love these.

Somehow i get the feeling i'm doing it wrong though.
YOU FIEND!!!!!!!!!!
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Namur: Oy hey, a boycott. Boy, i do love these.

Somehow i get the feeling i'm doing it wrong though.
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TheJoe: YOU FIEND!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah he forgot to buy the guild. :(
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TheJoe: YOU FIEND!!!!!!!!!!
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GameRager: Yeah he forgot to buy the guild. :(
oh you so funny.
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GameRager: Yeah he forgot to buy the guild. :(
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TheJoe: oh you so funny.
I'm only pointing out a big mistake he made, and which he should rectify immeadiately. ;)