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Posted April 14, 2014
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pimpmonkey2382: I've got a cheapie tablet, and the kindle app on there is pretty good.
Now that's a whole new topic.... are the books you read DRM-free?
Posted April 14, 2014
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pimpmonkey2382: I've got a cheapie tablet, and the kindle app on there is pretty good.
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pigdog: Now that's a whole new topic.... are the books you read DRM-free?
Not drm free but not so intrusive to bother me.
Posted April 14, 2014
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monkeydelarge: I agree that there is so much amazing literature out there that if you don't read, time to time, then you are missing out but imagine if Shakespeare came back from the dead, right now. Do you think he would want all his future work to be in books? OR would he start writing scripts for movies, TV shows etc? I agree that books stimulate the mind a lot more than movies and TV shows. And stimulating the mind is good. But do books stimulate the mind more than video games?
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F1ach: I would imagine he would look at books and be overcome with awe with their quality of binding, legibility and ease of access for ordinary people.
He wouldn't have to write future scripts for movies, he has already done that, he would also be too busy suing the movie companies and publishers for royalties to create anything else :P
Maybe he'd just turn to a life of crime, thinking, I've wasted enough of my life writing. Now I want some action and excitement!!! Just kidding. :)
Posted April 14, 2014
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F1ach: I would imagine he would look at books and be overcome with awe with their quality of binding, legibility and ease of access for ordinary people.
He wouldn't have to write future scripts for movies, he has already done that, he would also be too busy suing the movie companies and publishers for royalties to create anything else :P
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monkeydelarge: Maybe he'd just turn to a life of crime, thinking, I've wasted enough of my life writing. Now I want some action and excitement!!! Just kidding. :)
Or, he could get stuck in a lift with Kenneth Brannagh and think he had died again and gone to hell :P
Posted April 14, 2014
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monkeydelarge: Maybe he'd just turn to a life of crime, thinking, I've wasted enough of my life writing. Now I want some action and excitement!!! Just kidding. :)
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F1ach: Or, he could get stuck in a lift with Kenneth Brannagh and think he had died again and gone to hell :P
OR find out the Twilight series of books is more popular than his works today, then go back to being dead.
Post edited April 14, 2014 by monkeydelarge
Posted April 14, 2014
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monkeydelarge: OR find out the Twilight series of books is more popular than his works today, then go back to being dead.
lol
Posted April 14, 2014
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monkeydelarge: Of course, I don't abstain from this practice myself. A) This forum is where I come to share my thoughts. B) I believe books are inferior compared to movies, TV shows and video games. Duh. Trying to put me down because I share my thoughts when I am bothered by other people sharing their thoughts is(I'll be nice)...silly... If this is a crime in your mind, then 99.9% of the human population is guilty. Yes, I am guilty of thinking I am right and thinking others are wrong. Where in my previous posts, did I say, it is against my beliefs to share thoughts that express my belief that books are inferior to movies, TV shows and video games? You assume I'm bothered by people sharing their thoughts because I believe people shouldn't share their thoughts?

Since the first human beings on this Earth, people have been bothered by people sharing beliefs(or having beliefs) they believed to be wrong and had no problem sharing their beliefs because they believed their beliefs were right. A lot of people, unfortunately, were more than bothered by people sharing beliefs, they believed were wrong...

It seems, you got a little butt hurt and tried to attack me, the only way you could. Why? Because I believe books are inferior compared to movies, TV shows and video games? So if you think I'm wrong, then that is a good reason to not like me. But why take it to the next level as if I insulted your family? Why be more than bothered? Why get angry over something like this? Is everyone in your family, an author of books? Are you a librarian? Do you also attack people for thinking the music you listen to is shit? Why not tell me I'm wrong without accusing me of being a hypocrite and a dumb ass?
You tend to read much more into what people post and draw conclusions that put you into defensive mode which in turn makes you blow things out of proportion.

I neither like nor dislike you. I’m neither bothered by your beliefs nor angry - to put it bluntly, I don’t care either way about your beliefs. And I certainly didn’t attack you or accuse you of anything - the only one that though of and called you names is yourself.

Since you managed to miss the point of my post, let’s try this one last time.
You believe that books are inferior to other media and that you have the right to express it and expect people to not be bothered if they disagree with you. That’s all fine by me. But isn’t it odd that you’re bothered when others express the opposite opinion? That’s what you said in your post and that’s what I commented on – nth more, nth less.
And FWIW, I'll say it again - when it comes to (entertainment) media, there is no right or wrong, because it's all very subjective; one having different tastes and preferences doesn't make another one's wrong.

Anyway, I have no interest into getting into an argument with you, especially since you seem to take every potential disagreement as a personal attack against you and an attempt to put you down. So, feel free to reply if you so must, but I don’t have anything else to say on the matter.

Have a nice life :-)
Posted April 14, 2014
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monkeydelarge: Of course, I don't abstain from this practice myself. A) This forum is where I come to share my thoughts. B) I believe books are inferior compared to movies, TV shows and video games. Duh. Trying to put me down because I share my thoughts when I am bothered by other people sharing their thoughts is(I'll be nice)...silly... If this is a crime in your mind, then 99.9% of the human population is guilty. Yes, I am guilty of thinking I am right and thinking others are wrong. Where in my previous posts, did I say, it is against my beliefs to share thoughts that express my belief that books are inferior to movies, TV shows and video games? You assume I'm bothered by people sharing their thoughts because I believe people shouldn't share their thoughts?

Since the first human beings on this Earth, people have been bothered by people sharing beliefs(or having beliefs) they believed to be wrong and had no problem sharing their beliefs because they believed their beliefs were right. A lot of people, unfortunately, were more than bothered by people sharing beliefs, they believed were wrong...

It seems, you got a little butt hurt and tried to attack me, the only way you could. Why? Because I believe books are inferior compared to movies, TV shows and video games? So if you think I'm wrong, then that is a good reason to not like me. But why take it to the next level as if I insulted your family? Why be more than bothered? Why get angry over something like this? Is everyone in your family, an author of books? Are you a librarian? Do you also attack people for thinking the music you listen to is shit? Why not tell me I'm wrong without accusing me of being a hypocrite and a dumb ass?
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HypersomniacLive: You tend to read much more into what people post and draw conclusions that put you into defensive mode which in turn makes you blow things out of proportion.

I neither like nor dislike you. I’m neither bothered by your beliefs nor angry - to put it bluntly, I don’t care either way about your beliefs. And I certainly didn’t attack you or accuse you of anything - the only one that though of and called you names is yourself.

Since you managed to miss the point of my post, let’s try this one last time.
You believe that books are inferior to other media and that you have the right to express it and expect people to not be bothered if they disagree with you. That’s all fine by me. But isn’t it odd that you’re bothered when others express the opposite opinion? That’s what you said in your post and that’s what I commented on – nth more, nth less.
And FWIW, I'll say it again - when it comes to (entertainment) media, there is no right or wrong, because it's all very subjective; one having different tastes and preferences doesn't make another one's wrong.

Anyway, I have no interest into getting into an argument with you, especially since you seem to take every potential disagreement as a personal attack against you and an attempt to put you down. So, feel free to reply if you so must, but I don’t have anything else to say on the matter.

Have a nice life :-)
"While you're bothered by those thinking that other (entertainment) media are inferior to books, you don't seem to abstain from this practice yourself (only into the opposite direction). "
Maybe you should of been more clear. This can easily be seen as accusing someone of being a hypocrite. I didn't miss anything. The first half of your post didn't really have a point. Who said I don't expect other people to be bothered by what I said? I don't expect people to get angry and unleash personal insults on me for what I said. There is a difference.

"But isn’t it odd that you’re bothered when others express the opposite opinion?"
Is this a joke? Yes, let me find a forum for people who are against abortion online and tell them all that I think, there is nothing wrong with abortion. Then when people there reveal to me, they are bothered by what I have said, I will say, "isn't it odd that your bothered when others express the opposite opinion?".
Post edited April 14, 2014 by monkeydelarge
Posted April 15, 2014
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F1ach: Or, he could get stuck in a lift with Kenneth Brannagh and think he had died again and gone to hell :P
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monkeydelarge: OR find out the Twilight series of books is more popular than his works today, then go back to being dead.
Well, in all fairness, if Twilight is more popular, then that's more of an indictment of modern readers than Shakespeare's works :)
Posted April 15, 2014
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monkeydelarge: OR find out the Twilight series of books is more popular than his works today, then go back to being dead.
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F1ach: Well, in all fairness, if Twilight is more popular, then that's more of an indictment of modern readers than Shakespeare's works :)
That's rather silly. Shakespeare wrote plays for the people, and I'm sure he'd be fascinated by current culture. He'd probably be surprised at how highly his works are considered after all these years.

In all fairness, the reasons Shakespeare's plays are read less than many other books are that: a) it's harder to read a play than a novel, a play was meant to be watched; b) The English is old and therefore hard to read.
Posted April 15, 2014
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monkeydelarge: A book is just words and your imagination and imagination can't really beat real audio and visuals in front of you unless you are on something. :)
I tend to agree that novels aren't the best media for people who lack imagination.
Posted April 15, 2014
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monkeydelarge: A book is just words and your imagination and imagination can't really beat real audio and visuals in front of you unless you are on something. :)
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ET3D: I tend to agree that novels aren't the best media for people who lack imagination.
If imagination is so great for some people(the one's who don't lack imagination), why is there so much demand for movies and TV shows? How come, nowadays, less and less people are reading books? How come these people who have an imagination, don't just stay home, most of their lives and use their imagination to live their lives? Why do these people bother going out, looking for girlfriends or boyfriends? Why don't they just use their imagination? Because if someone's imagination is superior to what they can see right in front of their eyes, then clearly, they don't need real life experiences to live a satisfying life. If every time, I opened a book and experienced a Neverending Story type experience then I'd probably live in a public library and ignore everything else about life. I wouldn't even waste time to post on internet forums because there are so many books to read and so little time.

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F1ach: Well, in all fairness, if Twilight is more popular, then that's more of an indictment of modern readers than Shakespeare's works :)
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ET3D: That's rather silly. Shakespeare wrote plays for the people, and I'm sure he'd be fascinated by current culture. He'd probably be surprised at how highly his works are considered after all these years.

In all fairness, the reasons Shakespeare's plays are read less than many other books are that: a) it's harder to read a play than a novel, a play was meant to be watched; b) The English is old and therefore hard to read.
Yep. I'm guilty of making a silly joke.
Post edited April 15, 2014 by monkeydelarge
Posted April 15, 2014
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monkeydelarge: [snipped for brevity issues]
My friend, you've made your point, we won't make you enjoy books or think they're a different medium of art and entertainment, and you most certainly won't convince us that books are inferior to movies and video games, so, please, stop being antagonistic for antagonism's sake alone and trying to start arguments with us just because we think differently. You don't like to read, you don't value imagination, you're a 'practical individualistic person' with a 'pragmatic sense about them' and you're pretty certain of your values and personal truths and beliefs, we get it, please, move on. I think you're wrong in a lot of things you said about imagination and the whole demand for movies and TV shows, but I'm not in the mood to perpetuate any discussion with you, because I honestly don't think you'll even try to make an effort to understand -- you want to know why people demand TV shows and movies instead of books? There, because most people are dumb and refuse to work their brains to understand art and make their own interpretations of it; it's easier to watch a movie and just mentally drool because you have no image decoding whatsoever, it just enters your brain in a very basic way. Video games are interactive and give you an illusion of choice, but they're still as basic as it gets, you get a semi-accurate visual and thematic depiction of the developers' intended world, so you don't have to work your brain creating the world through your own thought process.

This isn't a thread to discuss Literary Theory, and even if it was you'd just plainly disagree with everything we'd say because "clearly" books are inferior and there's high demand for TV shows and movies for some "higher reason". This was a thread to appreciate an ad some people made, trying to get people to read books to their kids and getting them to read things they enjoy, because reading is ultimately a good thing. You dislike books, that's your prerogative, you're entitled to that opinion, you have stated it here, good for you, we get it. We like books, you don't. We don't think they're in any way inferior to other mediums of art and entertainment, you do. It's all good. But you don't need to force your shortsighted opinion on everyone just because you're entitled to it.
Post edited April 15, 2014 by groze
Posted April 15, 2014
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monkeydelarge: [snipped for brevity issues]
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groze: My friend, you've made your point, we won't make you enjoy books or think they're a different medium of art and entertainment, and you most certainly won't convince us that books are inferior to movies and video games, so, please, stop being antagonistic for antagonism's sake alone and trying to start arguments with us just because we think differently. You don't like to read, you don't value imagination, you're a 'practical individualistic person' with a 'pragmatic sense about them' and you're pretty certain of your values and personal truths and believes, we get it, please, move on. I think you're wrong in a lot of things you said about imagination and the whole demand for movies and TV shows, but I'm not in the mood to perpetuate any discussion with you, because I honestly don't think you'll even try to make an effort to understand -- you want to know why people demand TV shows and movies instead of books? There, because most people are dumb and refuse to work their brains to understand art and make their own interpretations of it; it's easier to watch a movie and just mentally drool because you have no image decoding whatsoever, it just enters your brain in a very basic way. Video games are interactive and give you an illusion of choice, but their still as basic as it gets, you get a semi-accurate visual and thematic depiction of the developers' intended world, so you don't have to work your brain creating the world through your own thought process.

This isn't a thread to discuss Literary Theory, and even if it was you'd just plainly disagree with everything we'd say because "clearly" books are inferior and there's high demand for TV shows and movies for some "higher reason". This was a thread to appreciate an ad some people made, trying to get people to read books to their kids and getting them to read things they enjoy, because reading is ultimately a good thing. You dislike books, that's your prerogative, you're entitled to that opinion, you have stated it here, good for you, we get it. We like books, you don't. We don't think they're in any way inferior to other mediums of art and entertainment, you do. It's all good. But you don't need to force your shortsighted opinion on everyone just because you're entitled to it.
I'm not forcing my opinions on anyone. It's not like, you have to read my posts. You can ignore them. And if you can't ignore people's posts, feel free to downrep my posts to make them go away if they bother you that much. I will understand. If I find out where you live and break into your house to tell you what I think about books THEN you can say I'm forcing my opinion on you. And one of the reasons, I keep posting here is because I am hoping someone will enlighten me if I am, wrong. I'm not constantly posting in this thread to spread anti book propaganda or something like that. :) I won't lose sleep if most people think books are superior to movies, TV shows and video games. It's not that big of a deal to me. It just bothers me but that is it. And you are taking this way too personally and for your information, I don't dislike books. Once in awhile, I do some reading. I have a kindle. If you despise debating so much, then why are you here? Yes, it seems like you despise debating and want this thread to be a thread where people talk about the book people unite advertisement and nothing else. You do realize there are plenty of forums out there where everyone thinks like you(forums for book people).
Post edited April 16, 2014 by monkeydelarge
Posted April 15, 2014
I miss Reading Rainbow tv show. Heck, I miss the old PBS network.
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