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Ian: oooh ooooh just need to comple DA: 0 - Buy DA 2 and i will be ready - hope they put it back a bit lmao :D
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Red_Avatar: Don't play DA2. It's a game that will make you weep man tears and wish you had never played it.

I'm not THAT picky about my RPGs but DA2 screwed up in every area:

- dull story: CHECK
- lazy level design: CHECK
- bad pacing: CHECK
- tedious/fetch quests: CHECK
- copy & paste design: CHECK
- illogical story/lore elements: CHECK
- dumbed down combat: CHECK
- many console influences: CHECK
- disappointing ending: CHECK
- bad UI: CHECK
- dumbed down game mechanics: CHECK

Honestly, EVERYTHING about this game smacked disappointment. Compared to DA: Origins, this was an insult. They actually cut out so many of the positives of Dragon Age Origins like how you were able to pick your starter story, how you could outfit and completely configure your team members, an open unlinear world to explore, great setting and lore, etc.

What we got was a crappy city where you got bad fetch quests, enemies that fell out of the air as if they teleported in off the Enterprise, dumb-ass combat, almost no control over team mates, simplified crafting, very linear story line, etc. etc. etc. Not a single element of that game I could appreciate.
Kirkwall is another name for HELL... DA2 revealed this to me.
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Crosmando: Haha, oh wow, that trailer..."We want the Skyrim audience"
Sounds a lot better than the "We want the COD crowd" statement. I consider this a vast improvement in attitude.
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Crosmando: Haha, oh wow, that trailer..."We want the Skyrim audience"
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Coelocanth: Sounds a lot better than the "We want the COD crowd" statement. I consider this a vast improvement in attitude.
Why not "We want Pillars of Eternity Audiance" ;)
It's pretty clear their sucking Bethesda's hind tit.
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scampywiak: It's pretty clear their sucking Bethesda's hind tit.
Well, considering that Skyrim by itself sold more copies than all of BW's recent games combined, I'm not surprised.
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Elmofongo: Why not "We want Pillars of Eternity Audiance" ;)
Well, even though I backed PoE (for a lot of money, actually), I'm realistic enough to know it's a niche audience for that game. BioWare's not going to go for a niche audience. And if they're looking for more 'mainstream' audiences, I'd far rather it be Skyrim fans than COD fans.
I still don't get it how elder scrolls went from niche to a cod level of brand recognition.
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Mr.Caine: I still don't get it how elder scrolls went from niche to a cod level of brand recognition.
Ever since Morrowind, it's been that way.
how did this go from a da3 thread to skyrim ^_-
yeah looks very skyrimish but that is what they were trying to do in the first place...
to be honest it doesnt look bad and we still have the save everywhere and the combat is more like DA:O than DA2 so maybe the game is not that bad we need to wait a little longer
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Coelocanth: Sounds a lot better than the "We want the COD crowd" statement. I consider this a vast improvement in attitude.
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Elmofongo: Why not "We want Pillars of Eternity Audiance" ;)
^This. Why not back to "We want Baldur's Gate audience" like what DA:O was made for.
God this game looks gorgeous. I may not be a big RPG guy, but this AND Witcher 3? I'm salivating.
I really, REALLY hope the fact it's on 5 different platforms doesn't screw it up. I wonder why BioWare won't just focus on next-gen & PC?
Post edited March 07, 2014 by FantasyNightmare
I lol'd.

It cracks me up how these producers are always bragging about their games in these presentations.
<lasting choices, impact, reactivity mumble-jumble>

Yea, right. Oh, I guess they meant that there will be some minor changes which dont really affect how the game progresses (or in a marginal way), and that the ending will be a decision made at the end of the game.

I think they also forgot to mention that the conversations are going to be extremely shallow and the choices to make not exactly a product of ambitious approach to the subject.

Also, how come he didnt mention that they're going to release an incomplete game, saving storyline-important DLC for later. Greedy bastards.

Other than that, the game might be cool - I dont know why, but it reminds me of Fable: The Lost Chapters (cool game btw).
Thats my first impression - a more 'sophisticated' version of Fable.

Its good that there are Kickstarter games which have a different approach. So hyped up for Pillars of Eternity.

I dont know, if in the end it turns out decent enought, maybe I will play DAIII one day (treating it exactly like Fable - a cool, light, fun RPGesque game) but its definitely not something I'm excited about.

Now that I think about it, its starting to remind me more of Witcher, only with added team elements and topped off with a sauce of blandness. Everything about it seems so generic and uninspired.
Post edited March 07, 2014 by DrYaboll
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Crosmando: Haha, oh wow, that trailer..."We want the Skyrim audience"
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Elmofongo: At least there is more varied enviornments and unlike Skyrim there appears to be a big Captial City. And thats one thing I was dissipointed with Skyrim is the its Captial City Whiterun looks like your avarage city in Cyrodiil and Morrowind and those 2 latter games had Vivec and Imperial City and they were memorable and large.
I agree with the point : "let's release a video for the guys wondering if they will buy TESO. Let's show them that they can get the exact same looking thing without the monthly grab."
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DrYaboll: I lol'd.

It cracks me up how these producers are always bragging about their games in these presentations.
<lasting choices, impact, reactivity mumble-jumble>

Yea, right. Oh, I guess they meant that there will be some minor changes which dont really affect how the game progresses (or in a marginal way), and that the ending will be a decision made at the end of the game.

I think they also forgot to mention that the conversations are going to be extremely shallow and the choices to make not exactly a product of ambitious approach to the subject.

Also, how come he didnt mention that they're going to release an incomplete game, saving storyline-important DLC for later. Greedy bastards.

Other than that, the game might be cool - I dont know why, but it reminds me of Fable: The Lost Chapters (cool game btw).
Thats my first impression - a more 'sophisticated' version of Fable.

Its good that there are Kickstarter games which have a different approach. So hyped up for Pillars of Eternity.

I dont know, if in the end it turns out decent enought, maybe I will play DAIII one day (treating it exactly like Fable - a cool, light, fun RPGesque game) but its definitely not something I'm excited about.

Now that I think about it, its starting to remind me more of Witcher, only with added team elements and topped off with a sauce of blandness. Everything about it seems so generic and uninspired.
You can't say that they haven't done anything AT ALL cause this project looks already 1000 times better than DA2. At least tactical view is back and initially the game would only take place in Orlais but the success of Skyrim has 'inspired' Bio to cover more places in Ferelden.

Will Bio have learned from their past greedy choices and their fan backlash? Who knows. They have had a lot of time to develop this one so it might turn out in a nice game. OR we get the same DLC infested bull crap.... At least the original DA:O writer is back so this can turn into a nice thing. If they decide to do things right I will buy it, if like you have said not, then it' a no buy for me even on 90% sales. I'm sick and tired of big devs get away with these micro transactions and DLC crap. So 5$ less from me is still 5$ loss for them :p
Post edited March 08, 2014 by Zurvan7