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I, too, blame Interplay, but I really have to wonder how Bethesda thinks the sale of the 'Fallout Trilogy' has impacted their sales and done irreparable harm. That just boggles the mind. But Interplay should have provided Bethesda with the required packaging, advertising, and promotional material as per the agreement (presumably they didn't).
Yeah, I can see a TOCA3 situation brewing here. Get out your credit cards people, and fire up your backup drives.
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Sielle: If GOG is forced to stop selling a game, can it still be downloaded if purchased previously? Also what about the extra content that GOG offers? I've already purchased all three Fallout Games, but I'm wondering if I need to start keeping multiple backups in various locations. :)
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Nevyrmoore: I have my doubts. It's likely they'll have to remove it from their servers (or at least make it inaccessible), including all bonus content.

It depends, GOG has assured us that we'll still be able to download games even if they cannot sell it anymore. This promise can fail if the game uses content that is only licensed for a limited time (such as TOCA3 and Colin McRae Rally 2005 using real-life car manufacturers and models... although I still see the games on my shelf, so I'm not entirely sure what's up with that), but seeing how the Fallout games doesn't seem to fall into that trap, I'm pretty sure we'll still be able to download them.
Well I think people should realize that Bethesday would sue to gain the profits, as it IS THEIR IP. All that would change is the bethesday logo on gog.com fallout games.
If Interplay is putting these games up without consulting Bethesday, then they are gaining profits off something that isn't their IP anymore...
Post edited September 11, 2009 by Zellio2009
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Prydeless: 1. What confusion has it caused to consumers and what harm has selling the trilogy caused Bethesda? That they're not raking in all that extra money?

Beth does not get cent from old Fallout Trilogy, thats why. Also playing original Trilogy have made many people realise what peace of crap Beth so called sequel is so more complaints. But mostly it's realisation what money maker they missed when they did not get original distribution rights in the deal.
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Prydeless: 2. I can't believe Interplay sold the Fallout IP for such a low amount of money.

It was pretty much sell or sink situation. Even selling most of their IP kept them barely afloat.
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Prydeless: 1. What confusion has it caused to consumers and what harm has selling the trilogy caused Bethesda? That they're not raking in all that extra money?
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Petrell: Beth does not get cent from old Fallout Trilogy, thats why. Also playing original Trilogy have made many people realise what peace of crap Beth so called sequel is so more complaints. But mostly it's realisation what money maker they missed when they did not get original distribution rights in the deal.
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Prydeless: 2. I can't believe Interplay sold the Fallout IP for such a low amount of money.

It was pretty much sell or sink situation. Even selling most of their IP kept them barely afloat.

If it's Bethesda's IP now then Interplay doesn't have a right to sell it without Bethesda's permission, no matter how much anybody despises the new game.
Post edited September 11, 2009 by Zellio2009
Some people may not know about Fallout Tactics and all the relatively old corporate shuffling in the industry, and so assume that a trilogy includes 1-3. When it doesn't, they could even get made at Bethesda. But the basic point is that Interplay seems not to have fulfilled their end of the contract.
And for us here, the important thing is to buy any Fallouts you don't already have, download everything, and make several backups.
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Zellio2009: Well I think people should realize that Bethesday would sue to gain the profits, as it IS THEIR IP. All that would change is the bethesday logo on gog.com fallout games.
If Interplay is putting these games up without consulting Bethesday, then they are gaining profits off something that isn't their IP anymore...

Interplay has the right to sell Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics.
At least I got them already :P
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Sielle: If GOG is forced to stop selling a game, can it still be downloaded if purchased previously? Also what about the extra content that GOG offers? I've already purchased all three Fallout Games, but I'm wondering if I need to start keeping multiple backups in various locations. :)

If court order ordering halt on sales comes, then yes. It should only halt the sales however so people who have already purchased any of the three games should be able to download it at least until final verdict is passed. If Bethesda wins the part about original trilogy sales, games are probably pulled entirely. Problem is, can Interplay even affort to fight it on court?
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Zellio2009: Well I think people should realize that Bethesday would sue to gain the profits, as it IS THEIR IP. All that would change is the bethesday logo on gog.com fallout games.
If Interplay is putting these games up without consulting Bethesday, then they are gaining profits off something that isn't their IP anymore...
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: Interplay has the right to sell Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics.

Provided they run it past Bethesda first and Bethesda approves, which this suit is alleging never happened.
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cogadh: Provided they run it past Bethesda first and Bethesda approves, which this suit is alleging never happened.

Precisely.
I suppose it's not surprising that so many here like to remember when Interplay was competent. Actually owned the rights to its many intellectual properties, and employed the people responsible for making them.
But those days are long over. They've sold the rights and lost the staff. The incompetence they continue to demonstrate only proves why.
I'm beginning to wonder why Zenimax/Bethesda didn't just buy up Interplay and its IP's in their entirety, rather than messing around with this business.
It's not like interplay would have been out of Zeni's financial reach...
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cogadh: Provided they run it past Bethesda first and Bethesda approves, which this suit is alleging never happened.

I was saying that because it sounded like he was implying that Bethesda owned the rights to F1, F2, and F:T by saying that the Bethesda logo would be on it.
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Andy_Panthro: I'm beginning to wonder why Zenimax/Bethesda didn't just buy up Interplay and its IP's in their entirety, rather than messing around with this business.
It's not like interplay would have been out of Zeni's financial reach...

The only reason they let Interplay create an MMO and sell the old Fallouts (under set conditions) was to throw the old company a bone. Hell, they probably thought they were doing them a favour. But the old dog is too lame and should have been put out of its misery then and there. I think you're probably right about that.
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: I was saying that because it sounded like he was implying that Bethesda owned the rights to F1, F2, and F:T by saying that the Bethesda logo would be on it.

Check the legal info on this very site. Bethesda DO own those games.
Post edited September 11, 2009 by Navagon
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: I was saying that because it sounded like he was implying that Bethesda owned the rights to F1, F2, and F:T by saying that the Bethesda logo would be on it.
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Navagon: Check the legal info on this very site. Bethesda DO own those games.

Clarification: Bethesda owns the trademark on the games, but does not own the games (i.e. the actual code). That still belongs to Interplay, but since Bethesda owns the trademark, Interplay can't do anything with the code unless Bethesda OKs the use of the trademark.