It irks me that while they're are making these games with graphics that look like something from a 512KB game they still need >100MB to do it! Just a sign of the times I guess.

True. On the other hand, a lot of people play specific type of games because the "real thing" is too expensive, too time consuming etc. I know a lot people who play fishing games just because they can't afford the money and time for a real deal. But if they couldn't satisfy their urges or whatever, they could start saving money for a real thing. But with video games, they are satisfied enough.

I don't know about direct connections, but it was studied somewhere, that some pedophilies are satisfied enough with kiddie porn (I know, delicate subject), and without it, they could've try to reach for the real thing.

Sometimes it works the other way around, though. Lesser things drive the urges for bigger things and real things, more hardcore, like in porn.

But we may agree that killing animals in games is better than killing animals in real life for sport, yes? :P

Absolutety. ;)

Hey don't you all dare bring this thread back on track.

You've got a point there.

I don't know if this has been mentioned in this thread yet, but I think Superbrothers: Sword and Sworcery is an excellent example of how to make an indie game with nice graphics but still having a retro feel. Like many of you probably did, I grew up in the 80's so I do enjoy some of that pixely retro throwback stuff. But I do think some games go too far with it. Graphics certainly don't make the game; I still play emulated Atari, Nes, SNES, whatever games from time to time. But if I'm going to spend 10+ dollars on a game from 2012, then I except the throwback graphics to be artsy and not an exact 8-bit replica. Games like Hotline Miami are a huge turn off to me in that respect.

I have a big appreciation for games that can pull off an artsy feel with the retro look (and still be fun, of course), and games with hand-drawn backgrounds (I think Machinarium was hand-drawn?). I'm not an artist or even an art person at all really, but I think it works well in video games.

I'm having "any females on here?" flashbacks.
I actually really liked that game's look too, but I know a lot of people thought it was ugly.

Some games just have lazy art design(or just plain unappealing), but that also appeals to 3D games. I'll take the looks of Cave Story over Gears of War anyday.

Me too, but with human consumption, that would completely decimate ecosystems.

I did. And killing 'all' wild boars is yet another hit to ecosystem. It's our own bloody fault we can't properly deal with animals (Doesn't quite apply to areas where they're overgown, obviously.) But yeah, who needs working ecosystems anyway, that's just crazy talk!

But as a complement to our consumption, it is not a bad thing. It will also effectively keep the population of certain animals down. Due to the fact that humans have killed so many of the larger predators, many of the larger herbivores are suffering from overpopulation in many parts of the world, and more hunters are needed to deal with this.

And overpopulation is the issue with wild boars as well. The reason why wild boars are getting so close to humans (like they are here) is because there is a near unsustainable amount of them out in the wild. Their population needs to be kept down, but we should of course not kill all of them.

I wouldn't. See two situations:

We suddenly stop eating all wildly living animals. What happens? All wild animals live happily ever after.

We suddenly stop eating all breeded animals only for food. What happens? All farmers kill all animals, because there's no purpose to keep them.

Stop talking to yourself! Seriously tho, ovepopulation is a huge problem ever since humanity started killing predators in large numbers.

True. Killing wild animals to keep their population low is OK. Eating them afterwards is OK too.

I don't like killing animals (even if eaten afterwards) only for sport. What I mean by only for sport is "Well, if I killed it, we may eat it too".

So we stop killing the predators - no more overpopulation of the prey.

If any animal suffers from overpopulation, its us humans. Well, ok, underpopulation in countries like Japan.