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timppu: I don't know if it can be bought separately from Humble Store, but with "Humble Bundle for Android 2", I got both the Windows and Android versions of Avadon. The HiB Android version is also DRM-free (I presume the GooglePlay version is not?).
I also have the HIB version. If Play Store's version is DRM-free version or not I don't know but I doubt it is.
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timppu: The HiB Android version is also DRM-free (I presume the GooglePlay version is not?).
That's an interesting question. It's not trivial to transfer the Google Play version to another device that doesn't have Google Play, but IIRC it's possible. I may be wrong though. Personally I'm fine with Google Play since it's such an integral part of Android that I don't envision using Android without it.
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Dzsono: I see you've converted to metric since moving to Poland :D
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Wishbone: With any luck he's seen the light, and will preach the wonders of the metric system to his fellow Americans once he returns home :-D

Not that I think it'll help.
I think both systems are fine and can usually do rough conversions in my head without much trouble. The only metric system scale I don't like is Centigrade (Celsius). While perfect for scientific uses, it is too narrow for talking about the weather. A range of 100 degrees on the Fahrenheit scale corresponds to only about 40 on the Centigrade. So there is a lot more nuance in stating the temperature in Fahrenheit - you can talk about a 60F degree day versus a 70F or 80F or 90F degree one and get a real feel for the difference, whereas saying it's 15C, 20C or 30C degrees just doesn't express as much. Similar to using metres in place of feet, the unit of measure just covers too much ground in one step for casual human usage.
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timppu: The HiB Android version is also DRM-free (I presume the GooglePlay version is not?).
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ET3D: That's an interesting question. It's not trivial to transfer the Google Play version to another device that doesn't have Google Play, but IIRC it's possible. I may be wrong though. Personally I'm fine with Google Play since it's such an integral part of Android that I don't envision using Android without it.
I'm more thinking that if we have two Android devices which have different Google accounts (e.g. one with my account, and another with my gf's), can the same game bought from GooglePlay be installed and played on both?

Also I was thinking that the newest Android versions apparently support having several accounts on one Android device, so is the game available for all the accounts on that device?

Needless to say, with the HiB Android games there are no restrictions, you can freely install the game to all your Android devices, no matter whose account is active in them.

I haven't tried it myself, so who knows, maybe the apps and games bought from GooglePlay can be transferred easily to different devices with different accounts, with no strings attached. Does it save some .apk file somewhere in the depths of the device?
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timppu: Also I was thinking that the newest Android versions apparently support having several accounts on one Android device, so is the game available for all the accounts on that device?
I bought a game on my wife's device using my account, and I think it downloaded there just fine. I did it because my Defy wasn't compatible with it and it was on sale, and I was sure I'd get a tablet later.

So it should work. Android 4.3 introduces profiles and users, and I have no idea how this inter-operates with multiple accounts.
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Wishbone: With any luck he's seen the light, and will preach the wonders of the metric system to his fellow Americans once he returns home :-D

Not that I think it'll help.
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IAmSinistar: I think both systems are fine and can usually do rough conversions in my head without much trouble. The only metric system scale I don't like is Centigrade (Celsius). While perfect for scientific uses, it is too narrow for talking about the weather.
Funny, to me it is much easier to think that if e.g. the temperature is over 0 C, the ice and snow outside will be melting, and if it rains, it will be probably water. And if it is under 0 C, snow and ice. At least in countries where there is a proper winter that point of temperature is quite important. I have no idea what is 0 C in Fahrenheits, probably something silly like 35.773687362 Fahrenheit. :)

I don't feel Celsius degrees are too "coarse" for talking about weather. 20 or 21 Celsius degrees feels the same to me, and if you really felt it is not fine enough scale, nothing prevents you from saying e.g. 20.5 C. :)

As for feet vs meters, the metric system is so much easier. 1km is 1000 meters, 1 meter is 100 centimeters, 1 centimeter is 10 millimeters etc. No wonder feet and such are not used in physics, and similarly they make normal life much easier as well. For example, if someone is 186 cm tall, you can tell right away he is 1m 86cm tall, or 1.86m. Try the same with feet and inches, better to take out that calculator while you are at it. :)

Now, if only date and time wasn't so complicated as well... I would prefer if each day had e.g. 10 hours, which were divided to 100 minutes, which where each divided to 100 seconds, etc. etc.
Post edited September 03, 2013 by timppu
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timppu: Funny, to me it is much easier to think that if e.g. the temperature is over 0 C, the ice and snow outside will be melting, and if it rains, it will be probably water. And if it is under 0 C, snow and ice. At least in countries where there is a proper winter that point of temperature is quite important. I have no idea what is 0 C in Fahrenheits, probably something silly like 35.773687362 Fahrenheit. :)
0C is 32F, and the boiling temperature of water is 212F. So a whole number scale as well in that system.

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timppu: I don't feel Celsius degrees are too "coarse" for talking about weather. 20 or 21 Celsius degrees feels the same to me, and if you really felt it is not fine enough scale, nothing prevents you from saying e.g. 20.5 C. :)
All a matter of opinion. But I maintain that more shades of distinction means more subtly and more effective communication. I am strongly motivated by aesthetics though, so this could have more primacy for me than others. For example, I like having colour definitions like teal and aquamarine, and don't find saying "bluish green" and "greenish blue" a suitable substitute. So saying that decimal values make Centigrade just as expressive as Fahrenheit doesn't convey for me. You may as well say it would be fine for Centigrade to put freezing at 0 and boiling at 10, and describe the temperature outside as 6.21. The human mind works best with whole units, and the more expressive those whole units are, the better the system for human use.

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timppu: As for feet vs meters, the metric system is so much easier. 1km is 1000 meters, 1 meter is 100 centimeters, 1 centimeter is 10 millimeters etc. No wonder feet and such are not used in physics, and similarly they make normal life much easier as well. For example, if someone is 186 cm tall, you can tell right away he is 1m 86cm tall, or 1.86m. Try the same with feet and inches, better to take out that calculator while you are at it. :)
Didn't I say I was fine with both systems? I'm a scientist, I know the functional value of the metric system, and I'm not opposed to it. A lot of calculations are far simpler in metric. I'm saying that the Imperial system works better at the casual human scale, because it describes things in a more readily graspable set of human dimensions. This has been the main obstacle to adoption of metric in America. Not because it's foreign, but because it is less human oriented.
Its not as though we refuse to use the metric system in America. Most rules and many of our thermometers have both scales side by side. Hardware stores carry screws and such in both systems. At least in my area, people even use meters just as much as yards to describe that distance. Neither Meters or yards get used all that much though, as people prefer to describe things in feet.
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TheEnigmaticT: Baldur's Gate I + II running via GemRB is pretty sweet. It's a bit buggy, and I had to turn on the setting that pauses the game each turn (in combat) to actually be able to control combat with a darn, but the idea of running something that used to require 25 kilos of computer on a <1 kilo tablet is pretty sweet. And the game controls better than 90% of what you'll find out there on tablets anyway. ;)
How do you get them running on Gemrb? Do you just copy the BG1 or 2 folder over to the android tablet? There's also that config file you have to setup, is there a setting somewhere I am missing? It seems to go to a black screen and then dump to the desktop.
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TheEnigmaticT: Baldur's Gate I + II running via GemRB is pretty sweet. It's a bit buggy, and I had to turn on the setting that pauses the game each turn (in combat) to actually be able to control combat with a darn, but the idea of running something that used to require 25 kilos of computer on a <1 kilo tablet is pretty sweet. And the game controls better than 90% of what you'll find out there on tablets anyway. ;)
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jjsimp: How do you get them running on Gemrb? Do you just copy the BG1 or 2 folder over to the android tablet? There's also that config file you have to setup, is there a setting somewhere I am missing? It seems to go to a black screen and then dump to the desktop.
I'm presuming that's the general idea. There's probably more steps to it than that. Did you check GemRB documentation?
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jjsimp: How do you get them running on Gemrb? Do you just copy the BG1 or 2 folder over to the android tablet? There's also that config file you have to setup, is there a setting somewhere I am missing? It seems to go to a black screen and then dump to the desktop.
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niniendowarrior: I'm presuming that's the general idea. There's probably more steps to it than that. Did you check GemRB documentation?
The documentation for the android leaves something to be desired, unfortunately. I am waiting for the Enhanced Edition, because I just can't get it running properly on my tablet.
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niniendowarrior: I'm presuming that's the general idea. There's probably more steps to it than that. Did you check GemRB documentation?
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Zacron: The documentation for the android leaves something to be desired, unfortunately. I am waiting for the Enhanced Edition, because I just can't get it running properly on my tablet.
I'm half hoping it wouldn't be deviating so far from the general GemRB install. Hmm...
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Dzsono: I see you've converted to metric since moving to Poland :D

Anyway, I'd suggest Cyber Knights Elite as a fun cyberpunk RPG.
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JudasIscariot: 3+ years of living in Poland and I still think in inches, pounds, feet etc :P
I do too, actually. I was being considerate and speaking to a European, so i was using his silly local measurement system instead of the entirely rational and sensible American one.

>.>
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JudasIscariot: 3+ years of living in Poland and I still think in inches, pounds, feet etc :P
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TheEnigmaticT: I do too, actually. I was being considerate and speaking to a European, so i was using his silly local measurement system instead of the entirely rational and sensible American one.

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"The sarcasm is strong in this one!" :-D
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Wishbone: "The sarcasm is strong in this one!" :-D
Real men measure things in khets and remens.