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BlueMooner: Reviews and ratings here are worthless, as everybody always gives everything glowing, five star reviews (Jack Keane 2).
Please keep in mind that Jack Keane 2 was an exception and even kind of a phenomenon.
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F4LL0UT: Please keep in mind that Jack Keane 2 was an exception and even kind of a phenomenon.
And what kind of phenomenon would that be?
Post edited January 10, 2014 by BlueMooner
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F4LL0UT: Please keep in mind that Jack Keane 2 was an exception and even kind of a phenomenon.
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BlueMooner: And what kind of phenomenon would that be?
Just pointing out that Jack Keane 2 isn't representative of the quality of the user reviews in general.
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Fever_Discordia: Is this still true of the bugs after the recent huge update?
How "recent" was that huge update? I played the game during last August and the version available then still had those bugs. I don't remember any more recent updates for ANB, but maybe I missed them?

EDIT: Ah, apparantly I missed the latest one. I played 2.0.0.5 and the current version is 2.1.0.6, so there's a chance the bugs have been fixed in the meantime. No guarantees, but thanks for pointing this out!
Post edited January 10, 2014 by Leroux
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F4LL0UT: Just pointing out that Jack Keane 2 isn't representative of the quality of the user reviews in general.
Did you click the link? While I wasn't around for the Insomnia sale, I read a bunch of pages of the Insomnia thread where everyone was so desperate for JK2 to move along as it was holding up the sale, that they wrote those glowing reviews. I was indicating that I was aware that JK2's reviews weren't legit and mentioned it in the OP as a joke.

However, I've read enough reviews here to realize that they're mostly unhelpful (for me at least). I've read too many nostalgia reviews such that I don't bother anymore, hence why I was asking for potential negative feedback on these games, things that might not show up in a let's play. Things like the mentions of saves not working at the end of NB (which I wouldn't watch an LP long enough to find out).
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grimwerk: I bought The Whispered World as part of a bundle some time ago. I didn't buy the bundle for it in particular, but I gave it a whirl all the same. The world is quite pretty. The game sometimes (often?) responds uniquely when you try incorrect combinations, actions, etc. I'm not very keen on the lead character, but he does have character, he's not a cookie-cutter hero. I'm not very keen on the supporting characters, either. But again, they are well fleshed-out and typically have a lot to say. I just don't like them. I find the puzzles (for lack of a better word) difficult but unsatisfying. I'm unsure how much I have completed. I'm quite stuck and I'm not motivated to continue. Experience with the game tells me that in a forest full of sticks, I may have failed to spot the particular stick I can actually pick up.
I can broadly agree with this - and further it to Deponia as well!

As to A New Beginning, I found the puzzles less annoying and the story a little more interesting, but it still wasn't high calibre at all.
Have not played chains of satinav
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Fever_Discordia: Is this still true of the bugs after the recent huge update?
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Leroux: How "recent" was that huge update? I played the game during last August and the version available then still had those bugs. I don't remember any more recent updates for ANB, but maybe I missed them?

EDIT: Ah, apparantly I missed the latest one. I played 2.0.0.5 and the current version is 2.1.0.6, so there's a chance the bugs have been fixed in the meantime. No guarantees, but thanks for pointing this out!
When I say 'huge' I mean the Steam version was over a Gb and GOG just made you download the whole thing again, I didn't actually notice much difference in game, but it wasn't bugging out for me at that point IIRC and then proceeded not to
The only weirdness I noticed was, with the text on, a few red herring and background descriptions being still in the original German and even one or 2 in Russian Cyrillic!
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BlueMooner: While I wasn't around for the Insomnia sale...
Be glad. It was awful and this place turned to shit!
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grimwerk: I bought The Whispered World as part of a bundle some time ago. I didn't buy the bundle for it in particular, but I gave it a whirl all the same. The world is quite pretty. The game sometimes (often?) responds uniquely when you try incorrect combinations, actions, etc. I'm not very keen on the lead character, but he does have character, he's not a cookie-cutter hero. I'm not very keen on the supporting characters, either. But again, they are well fleshed-out and typically have a lot to say. I just don't like them. I find the puzzles (for lack of a better word) difficult but unsatisfying. I'm unsure how much I have completed. I'm quite stuck and I'm not motivated to continue. Experience with the game tells me that in a forest full of sticks, I may have failed to spot the particular stick I can actually pick up.
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Sachys: I can broadly agree with this - and further it to Deponia as well!

As to A New Beginning, I found the puzzles less annoying and the story a little more interesting, but it still wasn't high calibre at all.
Have not played chains of satinav
I quite like the main guy in Deponia actually, he's like the dangerously irresponsible, deeply unself-aware, arsehole version of Guybrush Threepwood!
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BlueMooner: While I wasn't around for the Insomnia sale, I read a bunch of pages of the Insomnia thread where everyone was so desperate for JK2 to move along as it was holding up the sale, that they wrote those glowing reviews. I was indicating that I was aware that JK2's reviews weren't legit and mentioned it in the OP as a joke.
I am perfectly aware of what happened during the Insomnia Sale, I just didn't think that mentioning Jack Keane 2 in the OP was meant as a joke. :P

And please don't call it JK2. To me JK2 is Jedi Knight: Jedi Outcast. It hurts both my brain and my soul to see the abbreviation being used for the abomination that Jack Keane 2 (supposedly) is.
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Sachys: I'm not very keen on the lead character...
You sure you didn't mean to say... keane? *badum tsh*
Post edited January 10, 2014 by F4LL0UT
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Fever_Discordia: I quite like the main guy in Deponia actually, he's like the dangerously irresponsible, deeply unself-aware, arsehole version of Guybrush Threepwood!
Thats exactly why I hate the little twat! Heheh!

Edit: I think thats why I hate the game. Never did like the secret of monkey island games.
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F4LL0UT: You sure you didn't mean to say... keane? *badum tsh*
Very sure. Not only did I hate that game, but also the "meme" from the sale.
I am full of hate as it was cheaper than pizza! ;)
Post edited January 10, 2014 by Sachys
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F4LL0UT: And please don't call it JK2. To me JK2 is Jedi Knight: Jedi Outcast. It hurts both my brain and my soul to see the abbreviation being used for the abomination that Jack Keane 2 (supposedly) is.
I know it'll crush some souls to dust, but Jack Keane 2 is...
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kind of decent :) At least for what I've seen so far.
Both have their illogical puzzles and incredibly beautiful art (CoS is in HD though, as opposed to WW's 1024x768)

WW's main character has a horrendously annoying voice.
CoS has awful animations.
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Sachys: Be glad. It was awful and this place turned to shit!
I was wondering what that smell was when I returned. I assumed it was just Tiny.

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F4LL0UT: And please don't call it JK2. To me JK2 is Jedi Knight: Jedi Outcast. It hurts both my brain and my soul to see the abbreviation being used for the abomination that Jack Keane 2 (supposedly) is.
Sure, sure... not a prob....

*scribbles down torture material to use for blackmail at some later date*

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Sachys: Not only did I hate that game, but also the "meme" from the sale.
I am full of hate as it was cheaper than pizza! ;)
Um, it's certainly good that nobody did anything like that in this thread, yessirree.
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BlueMooner: The Whispered World
The Dark Eye: Chains of Satinav
A New Beginning

One of the game descriptions mentions Edna & Harvey. Any thoughts on them?
I haven't play Chains of Satinav yet, but at the current price you can safely buy each of them.
Edna & Harvey is a true Indie classic which helped revive the almost dead P'n'C genre. It's a one man development and therefor visually not as polished as later titles, but the game has character. I really liked it.

The Whispered World features an anti-hero as main character (Cedric) and by that I don't mean the 80s looser type that comes out as a hero in the end (like in so many other games and movies). This guy has a unique slightly depressive character, that lots of people didn't like. It stands in contrast to a classic ever-happy looking, good-versus-evil fairytale world. There's no deep character development nor any further depth to it, it's just an ambivalent tone between setting and protagonist. Cedric's voice takes getting used to (in both German and English), but hey, that's who he is. The game is visually appealing and playable without any walkthroughs, but occasionally I spent some time running around searching for solutions. If you like the setting of old titles like Kings Quest and Loom you can safely buy it.

A New Beginning features a more comic like visual design, which reflects the time the story takes place. Also the emphasis on environment protection connects actual discussions with the time when green politics emerged. As the developers are from Germany where the green movement is still strong, the story might be influenced by their experiences and the history of their parents. Nothing wrong with that, but some people might associate this with lecturing and therefor dislike it. In some way it actually is, not least it won several juvenile game awards (while not being a dedicated kids' game). All in all it's less fairytale and more adventure. The gameplay is rather classic P'n'C. At this price, if you like adventures, you can go ahead. No major flaw.
Post edited January 10, 2014 by DeMignon