Posted April 23, 2014
Johnathanamz
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Neobr10
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I guess i did destroy your brain with logical arguments.
But there is no distinction. That's the point. DLC stands for Downloadable Content, it could either be a a huge expansion or a pack of new skins. It's that simple.
But there is no distinction. That's the point. DLC stands for Downloadable Content, it could either be a a huge expansion or a pack of new skins. It's that simple.
Post edited April 23, 2014 by Neobr10
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Neobr10: I guess i did destroy your brain with logical arguments.
They are not logical. Every single human being on Earth can have their own definitions what a expansion pack or DLC is. anothername: Oh man. Don't you thing you bark at the wrong tree? If the "modern industry" is to lazy or too dumb to make the distinction maybe you should complain to them instead to those individuals that started gaming when controllers where made of wood.
Neobr10: But there is no distinction. That's the point. DLC stands for Downloadable Content, it could either be a a huge expansion or a pack of new skins. It's that simple. I am getting bored of arguing. We are arguing over it for some reason.
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Because that's when DLC actually got put in the video game industry. Bethesda Game Studio basically started it with the Horse Armor DLC for The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. Before that it was known as add-on or expansion pack and DLC's were offered for FREE in patches.
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Johnathanamz: They are not logical. Every single human being on Earth can have their own definitions what a expansion pack or DLC is.
That's exactly what i said before, you can have your own definition of what a "tree" is. Just don't try to make it into an universal fact. The fact is that nowadays any expansion that is sold online and requires the base game falls under the DLC category. That's the standard set by the industry. You can call it whatever you want, but if you want t buy that Skyrim "expansion" you will have to search under the DLC category. They could have called it " downloadable add-ons", "downloadable expansions", "hamburgers" or whatever, but they have chosen to call them DLC. Don't blame me.
DLC is a broad expression. It may refer to huge expansions, map packs and even some skins. But yes, expansions are indeed one sort of DLC.
Post edited April 23, 2014 by Neobr10
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Johnathanamz: They are not logical. Every single human being on Earth can have their own definitions what a expansion pack or DLC is.
Neobr10: That's exactly what i said before, you can have your own definition of what a "tree" is. Just don't try to make it into an universal fact. The fact is that nowadays any expansion that is sold online and requires the base game falls under the DLC category. That's the standard set by the industry. You can call it whatever you want, but if you want t buy that Skyrim "expansion" you will have to search under the DLC category. They could have called it " downloadable add-ons", "downloadable expansions", "hamburgers" or whatever, but they have chosen to call them DLC. Don't blame me.
Why does CD Projekt RED still call them expansion packs? Why does Todd Howard? Why do a bunch of kickstarters like Niggles said they do?
I'm not blaming you I'm blaming the video game industry. I will continue to call expansion packs expansion packs and not DLC's.
Post edited April 23, 2014 by Johnathanamz
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Neobr10: I guess i did destroy your brain with logical arguments.
As already said. Technical its true & in that regard I agree. Technically you could call every gaming software just gaming software not matter if it console, pc, DLC, disk only x-pack, stand alone map creators, etc. anothername: Oh man. Don't you thing you bark at the wrong tree? If the "modern industry" is to lazy or too dumb to make the distinction maybe you should complain to them instead to those individuals that started gaming when controllers where made of wood.
Neobr10: But there is no distinction. That's the point. DLC stands for Downloadable Content, it could either be a a huge expansion or a pack of new skins. It's that simple. If you don't want to make distinctions thats ok. I prefer to call an expansion pack an expansion pack even if its only digital available and I have yet to meet someone who does not understand what this might contain; that does not work as easly with DLC as description since ppl either assume some small fluffy stuff or assume nothing at all because of its widespread use for everything.
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Johnathanamz: It's true though a expansion pack expands the video game a lot even if you can purchase and download it digitally. It's not a DLC. You just download it is all.
Why does CD Projket RED still call them expansion packs? Why does Todd Howard? Why do a bunch of kickstarters like Niggles said they do?
Neobr10: Yes, right, they are expansions, but these expansions ARE DLC. That's what i'm trying to say. DLC is a broad expression. It may refer to huge expansions, map packs and even some skins. But yes, expansions are indeed one sort of DLC. Why does CD Projket RED still call them expansion packs? Why does Todd Howard? Why do a bunch of kickstarters like Niggles said they do?
DLC stands for downloadable content. A huge expansion and a pack os skins are both DLCs.
Johnathanamz: I'm not blaming you I'm blaming the video game industry. I will continue to call expansion packs expansion packs and not DLC's.
Neobr10: That's fine, you can call them whatever you want. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is a DLC and not a video game. That doesn't even make sense now LOL.
LOL I got beaten by anothername.
Post edited April 23, 2014 by Johnathanamz
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amok: I think that the issue here is that DLC is a catch-all umbrella term, which can be divided into smaller concepts.
So you have many types of DLC, including expansions, map packs, skins and so on. They all are a different categories of DLC's, but they all are DLC's as long as they are an addition to a base game and delivered digitally. So you can have a meaningful discussion of skins vs. expansions, but it is not right to say that an expansions is not a DLC.
Yeahhh, exactly. I would not call a expansion pack a DLC not because its technically wrong (its not, its right) but because every gamer knows roughly what to expect from an X-Pack.So you have many types of DLC, including expansions, map packs, skins and so on. They all are a different categories of DLC's, but they all are DLC's as long as they are an addition to a base game and delivered digitally. So you can have a meaningful discussion of skins vs. expansions, but it is not right to say that an expansions is not a DLC.
Post edited April 23, 2014 by anothername
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Neobr10: Yes, right, they are expansions, but these expansions ARE DLC. That's what i'm trying to say. DLC is a broad expression. It may refer to huge expansions, map packs and even some skins. But yes, expansions are indeed one sort of DLC.
DLC stands for downloadable content. A huge expansion and a pack os skins are both DLCs.
That's fine, you can call them whatever you want.
Johnathanamz: Then the vanilla video games themselves should also be called DLC or DLC's if you purchase them digitally because they have content. DLC stands for downloadable content. A huge expansion and a pack os skins are both DLCs.
That's fine, you can call them whatever you want.
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is a DLC and not a video game. That doesn't even make sense now LOL.
LOL I got beaten by anothername.
Call every game a DLC? Hmm.. I don't think so. I mean yeah, games consist of contend that you can download but I think in that regard contend was always meant as "part of it, never the whole thing".
*ponders* Meh, no Idea.
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Johnathanamz: It's true though a expansion pack expands the video game a lot even if you can purchase and download it digitally. It's not a DLC. You just download it is all.
Why does CD Projekt RED still call them expansion packs? Why does Todd Howard? Why do a bunch of kickstarters like Niggles said they do?
I'm not blaming you I'm blaming the video game industry. I will continue to call expansion packs expansion packs and not DLC's.
And that is fine, there is nothing wrong with calling expansions for expansions. However, what is a bit wrong is saying that expansions are not DLC's. Why does CD Projekt RED still call them expansion packs? Why does Todd Howard? Why do a bunch of kickstarters like Niggles said they do?
I'm not blaming you I'm blaming the video game industry. I will continue to call expansion packs expansion packs and not DLC's.
(it is a bit like saying Chimpanzees are not Primates... even though many people talk about Chimpanzees without calling them primates)
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Posted April 23, 2014
Johnathanamz: Then the vanilla video games themselves should also be called DLC or DLC's if you purchase them digitally because they have content.
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is a DLC and not a video game. That doesn't even make sense now LOL.
LOL I got beaten by anothername.
C'mon, even Mr Fantastic would be proud of that stretch. Let me post the definition for the third time: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is a DLC and not a video game. That doesn't even make sense now LOL.
LOL I got beaten by anothername.
"Downloadable content (DLC) is additional content for a video game distributed through the Internet by the game's official publisher or other third party content producers. Downloadable content can be of several types, ranging from aesthetic outfit changes to a new, extensive storyline, similar to an expansion pack. As such, DLC may add new game modes, objects, levels, challenges or other features to a complete and already released game."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downloadable_content
The key word here is additional. Hope that makes it easier for you to understand.
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Posted April 23, 2014
Johnathanamz: Then the vanilla video games themselves should also be called DLC or DLC's if you purchase them digitally because they have content.
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is a DLC and not a video game. That doesn't even make sense now LOL.
LOL I got beaten by anothername.
Neobr10: C'mon, even Mr Fantastic would be proud of that stretch. Let me post the definition for the third time: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is a DLC and not a video game. That doesn't even make sense now LOL.
LOL I got beaten by anothername.
"Downloadable content (DLC) is additional content for a video game distributed through the Internet by the game's official publisher or other third party content producers. Downloadable content can be of several types, ranging from aesthetic outfit changes to a new, extensive storyline, similar to an expansion pack. As such, DLC may add new game modes, objects, levels, challenges or other features to a complete and already released game."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downloadable_content
The key word here is additional. Hope that makes it easier for you to understand.