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Posted April 23, 2014
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Johnathanamz: .
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I am confused is this post to me or Neobr10?
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anothername: Neobr10
Ok Neobr10 I think destroyed my brain today :P. So that is why I was confused.
Posted April 23, 2014
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Johnathanamz: Ok Neobr10 I think destroyed my brain today :P. So that is why I was confused.
I guess i did destroy your brain with logical arguments.
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anothername: Oh man. Don't you thing you bark at the wrong tree? If the "modern industry" is to lazy or too dumb to make the distinction maybe you should complain to them instead to those individuals that started gaming when controllers where made of wood.
But there is no distinction. That's the point. DLC stands for Downloadable Content, it could either be a a huge expansion or a pack of new skins. It's that simple.
Post edited April 23, 2014 by Neobr10
Posted April 23, 2014
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Johnathanamz: Ok Neobr10 I think destroyed my brain today :P. So that is why I was confused.
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Neobr10: I guess i did destroy your brain with logical arguments.
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anothername: Oh man. Don't you thing you bark at the wrong tree? If the "modern industry" is to lazy or too dumb to make the distinction maybe you should complain to them instead to those individuals that started gaming when controllers where made of wood.
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Neobr10: But there is no distinction. That's the point. DLC stands for Downloadable Content, it could either be a a huge expansion or a pack of new skins. It's that simple.
They are not logical. Every single human being on Earth can have their own definitions what a expansion pack or DLC is.

I am getting bored of arguing. We are arguing over it for some reason.
Posted April 23, 2014
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Johnathanamz: Personal attacks? I didn't attack you at all.
Oh, no? Then why exactly were you trying to disqualify my arguments by implying that "i am probably one of these new video gamers who started playing video games around middle of 2000 like in 2005 or 2006"?
Posted April 23, 2014
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Johnathanamz: Personal attacks? I didn't attack you at all.
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Neobr10: Oh, no? Then why exactly were you trying to disqualify my arguments by implying that "i am probably one of these new video gamers who started playing video games around middle of 2000 like in 2005 or 2006"?
Because that's when DLC actually got put in the video game industry. Bethesda Game Studio basically started it with the Horse Armor DLC for The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. Before that it was known as add-on or expansion pack and DLC's were offered for FREE in patches.
Posted April 23, 2014
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Johnathanamz: They are not logical. Every single human being on Earth can have their own definitions what a expansion pack or DLC is.
That's exactly what i said before, you can have your own definition of what a "tree" is. Just don't try to make it into an universal fact.

The fact is that nowadays any expansion that is sold online and requires the base game falls under the DLC category. That's the standard set by the industry. You can call it whatever you want, but if you want t buy that Skyrim "expansion" you will have to search under the DLC category. They could have called it " downloadable add-ons", "downloadable expansions", "hamburgers" or whatever, but they have chosen to call them DLC. Don't blame me.

DLC is a broad expression. It may refer to huge expansions, map packs and even some skins. But yes, expansions are indeed one sort of DLC.
Post edited April 23, 2014 by Neobr10
Posted April 23, 2014
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Johnathanamz: They are not logical. Every single human being on Earth can have their own definitions what a expansion pack or DLC is.
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Neobr10: That's exactly what i said before, you can have your own definition of what a "tree" is. Just don't try to make it into an universal fact.

The fact is that nowadays any expansion that is sold online and requires the base game falls under the DLC category. That's the standard set by the industry. You can call it whatever you want, but if you want t buy that Skyrim "expansion" you will have to search under the DLC category. They could have called it " downloadable add-ons", "downloadable expansions", "hamburgers" or whatever, but they have chosen to call them DLC. Don't blame me.
It's true though a expansion pack expands the video game a lot even if you can purchase and download it digitally. It's not a DLC. You just download it is all.

Why does CD Projekt RED still call them expansion packs? Why does Todd Howard? Why do a bunch of kickstarters like Niggles said they do?

I'm not blaming you I'm blaming the video game industry. I will continue to call expansion packs expansion packs and not DLC's.
Post edited April 23, 2014 by Johnathanamz
Posted April 23, 2014
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Johnathanamz: It's true though a expansion pack expands the video game a lot even if you can purchase and download it digitally. It's not a DLC. You just download it is all.

Why does CD Projket RED still call them expansion packs? Why does Todd Howard? Why do a bunch of kickstarters like Niggles said they do?
Yes, right, they are expansions, but these expansions ARE DLC. That's what i'm trying to say. DLC is a broad expression. It may refer to huge expansions, map packs and even some skins. But yes, expansions are indeed one sort of DLC.

DLC stands for downloadable content. A huge expansion and a pack os skins are both DLCs.
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Johnathanamz: I'm not blaming you I'm blaming the video game industry. I will continue to call expansion packs expansion packs and not DLC's.
That's fine, you can call them whatever you want.
Post edited April 23, 2014 by Neobr10
Posted April 23, 2014
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Johnathanamz: Ok Neobr10 I think destroyed my brain today :P. So that is why I was confused.
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Neobr10: I guess i did destroy your brain with logical arguments.
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anothername: Oh man. Don't you thing you bark at the wrong tree? If the "modern industry" is to lazy or too dumb to make the distinction maybe you should complain to them instead to those individuals that started gaming when controllers where made of wood.
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Neobr10: But there is no distinction. That's the point. DLC stands for Downloadable Content, it could either be a a huge expansion or a pack of new skins. It's that simple.
As already said. Technical its true & in that regard I agree. Technically you could call every gaming software just gaming software not matter if it console, pc, DLC, disk only x-pack, stand alone map creators, etc.

If you don't want to make distinctions thats ok. I prefer to call an expansion pack an expansion pack even if its only digital available and I have yet to meet someone who does not understand what this might contain; that does not work as easly with DLC as description since ppl either assume some small fluffy stuff or assume nothing at all because of its widespread use for everything.
Posted April 23, 2014
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Johnathanamz: It's true though a expansion pack expands the video game a lot even if you can purchase and download it digitally. It's not a DLC. You just download it is all.

Why does CD Projket RED still call them expansion packs? Why does Todd Howard? Why do a bunch of kickstarters like Niggles said they do?
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Neobr10: Yes, right, they are expansions, but these expansions ARE DLC. That's what i'm trying to say. DLC is a broad expression. It may refer to huge expansions, map packs and even some skins. But yes, expansions are indeed one sort of DLC.

DLC stands for downloadable content. A huge expansion and a pack os skins are both DLCs.
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Johnathanamz: I'm not blaming you I'm blaming the video game industry. I will continue to call expansion packs expansion packs and not DLC's.
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Neobr10: That's fine, you can call them whatever you want.
Then the vanilla video games themselves should also be called DLC or DLC's if you purchase them digitally because they have content.

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is a DLC and not a video game. That doesn't even make sense now LOL.

LOL I got beaten by anothername.
Post edited April 23, 2014 by Johnathanamz
Posted April 23, 2014
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anothername: Snip
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amok: I think that the issue here is that DLC is a catch-all umbrella term, which can be divided into smaller concepts.

So you have many types of DLC, including expansions, map packs, skins and so on. They all are a different categories of DLC's, but they all are DLC's as long as they are an addition to a base game and delivered digitally. So you can have a meaningful discussion of skins vs. expansions, but it is not right to say that an expansions is not a DLC.
Yeahhh, exactly. I would not call a expansion pack a DLC not because its technically wrong (its not, its right) but because every gamer knows roughly what to expect from an X-Pack.
Post edited April 23, 2014 by anothername
Posted April 23, 2014
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Neobr10: Yes, right, they are expansions, but these expansions ARE DLC. That's what i'm trying to say. DLC is a broad expression. It may refer to huge expansions, map packs and even some skins. But yes, expansions are indeed one sort of DLC.

DLC stands for downloadable content. A huge expansion and a pack os skins are both DLCs.

That's fine, you can call them whatever you want.
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Johnathanamz: Then the vanilla video games themselves should also be called DLC or DLC's if you purchase them digitally because they have content.

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is a DLC and not a video game. That doesn't even make sense now LOL.

LOL I got beaten by anothername.
More or less ;)
Call every game a DLC? Hmm.. I don't think so. I mean yeah, games consist of contend that you can download but I think in that regard contend was always meant as "part of it, never the whole thing".

*ponders* Meh, no Idea.
Posted April 23, 2014
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Johnathanamz: It's true though a expansion pack expands the video game a lot even if you can purchase and download it digitally. It's not a DLC. You just download it is all.

Why does CD Projekt RED still call them expansion packs? Why does Todd Howard? Why do a bunch of kickstarters like Niggles said they do?

I'm not blaming you I'm blaming the video game industry. I will continue to call expansion packs expansion packs and not DLC's.
And that is fine, there is nothing wrong with calling expansions for expansions. However, what is a bit wrong is saying that expansions are not DLC's.

(it is a bit like saying Chimpanzees are not Primates... even though many people talk about Chimpanzees without calling them primates)
Posted April 23, 2014
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Johnathanamz: Then the vanilla video games themselves should also be called DLC or DLC's if you purchase them digitally because they have content.

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is a DLC and not a video game. That doesn't even make sense now LOL.

LOL I got beaten by anothername.
C'mon, even Mr Fantastic would be proud of that stretch. Let me post the definition for the third time:

"Downloadable content (DLC) is additional content for a video game distributed through the Internet by the game's official publisher or other third party content producers. Downloadable content can be of several types, ranging from aesthetic outfit changes to a new, extensive storyline, similar to an expansion pack. As such, DLC may add new game modes, objects, levels, challenges or other features to a complete and already released game."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downloadable_content

The key word here is additional. Hope that makes it easier for you to understand.
Posted April 23, 2014
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Johnathanamz: Then the vanilla video games themselves should also be called DLC or DLC's if you purchase them digitally because they have content.

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is a DLC and not a video game. That doesn't even make sense now LOL.

LOL I got beaten by anothername.
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Neobr10: C'mon, even Mr Fantastic would be proud of that stretch. Let me post the definition for the third time:

"Downloadable content (DLC) is additional content for a video game distributed through the Internet by the game's official publisher or other third party content producers. Downloadable content can be of several types, ranging from aesthetic outfit changes to a new, extensive storyline, similar to an expansion pack. As such, DLC may add new game modes, objects, levels, challenges or other features to a complete and already released game."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downloadable_content

The key word here is additional. Hope that makes it easier for you to understand.
I'm done responding to you. We argue for no reason. You don't have to post that DLC definition again. I will not call a expansion pack DLC I will call a expansion pack a expansion pack. Hearthfire a DLC and anything that adds 5 maps or 5 skins a DLC.
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