Posted February 07, 2014
Soyeong: It's true that gravity will not change behavior, but that is a philosophical truth rather than a scientific one. Science tells us about things that are observable, measurable, and repeatable, but it does not tell us about whether the future will be like the present.
Philosophy "tells"? More like "suggests". Soyeong: That's like asking if matter exists, are there any limits to the forms that matter can take? Of course it's possible for matter to take the form of a shark riding a unicorn, but contrary to memes, that doesn't invalidate anyone's argument.
Yes it does, it should make it clear to you that the possibility of something's existance, does not mean it exists. Soyeong: Logical necessity does not mean possible solution. If an argument has true premises and a valid form, then the conclusion follows through logical necessity.
Meaning? Let me guess: "Hence god exists!" Soyeong: The article explains the problems better than I can, but one problem he has is if our universe is but one member of an infinite collection of randomly varying universes, then it’s overwhelmingly more probable that we should be observing a much different universe than that which we in fact observe.
So? Everything is very improbable. What is the probability of gods creating me to write this here? Yes I know it is testing you. lol lol lol
heliocentricity.
iippo: so you think the sandwich disappears? or becomes non-existent even?
unless you DO believe in god who makes sandwiches appear and disappear from existence, doesnt it then mean that eating a sandwich is likely to be fundamentally same as big bang? just change in form rather than existence?
Could be! I have this hypothesis that everything is a little universe, and everything within that is a little universe and so on. Maybe our universe is just a cell or an atom within a plant in the universe above us. I have just as much evidence for it as Crag Hack has for this ideas. unless you DO believe in god who makes sandwiches appear and disappear from existence, doesnt it then mean that eating a sandwich is likely to be fundamentally same as big bang? just change in form rather than existence?
Soyeong: He starts off by arguing the the universe has a cause. Then he argues for what attributes this cause has. If his arguments work, then he has proven the existence of a being that has many of the attributes that correspond to our idea of God.
Sounds like it requires boatloads of assumptions to me. "proven" lmao Soyeong: The multiverse does have explanatory power in this regard, but so does God, and neither have any scientific evidence. However, I think God is the superior explanation because the article has lethal objections to the multiverse.
Of course the "lethal objections" to gods don't concern you. Why would you even compare the two? Plus you can always push your gods of the gaps one step further and just claim the gods made all the universes, because hey why not. Soyeong: While we are likewise not familiar with designers of universes, we certainly are familiar with minds and the products of intelligent design, so that the appeal to a designer as the best explanation of the fine-tuning is an appeal to a familiar explanatory entity.
Fine tuning? LOL So the fact that 99% or more of all species that ever existed died a horrible death is fine tuning. Among them some almost humans who maybe had gods, too. These designers are noobs. I would have given us a second set of eyes in the back and the ability to close our ears at least so my neighbors don't annoy me.