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Posted February 03, 2014
Right, but not many things have the power to cause a universe to happen. In the very least something that has the power to cause the universe corresponds to our idea of God.
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Their arguments however are definitely more compelling than what the theists state, and discarding it doesnt make sense, unless, of course, you're a scientist yourself and you have a better theory.
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The big bang is a theistic theory because the big bang requires something that caused it.
Also, there are loads of scientific theories. Time travel, multiverse, what is beyond the observable universe.......really, loads of it.
FAButzke is actually right in that aspect, and it was my fault that I ommited some of the things he said.
If you dont agree with me, make a wikipedia trip and try to judge for yourself.
They have theories for everything, even if there is no way to actually check if it's true.
Also, I am not really sure what point are you trying to make here.
Basicly, it is vital to have some dosage of sceptisism, and dont take everything for granted. But really, one bigger wikipedia trip, and you start to wonder "where the hell are they taking these ideas from?".
Sure its interesting, sure a lot of it makes perfect sense to me, but you cant believe blindly. Some of the stuff looks like wild guesses (please, dont torment me by taking wild guess literally, heh).
Lets be honest, a lot of the science is about making a guess (history and archeology included). Sciencists are not superhumans, nor gods. In many cases it works like this: we have evidence A, B and C. We analize it. We compare it to other stuff. We fill in the blanks.
The end result is, that it cant be deemed as absolute truth.
Just take a look at the course of scientific theories, and how many times after X years passed, another generation of scientists took a lot at it, and said "well, this is bs - here's how it is for real".
Post edited February 03, 2014 by DrYaboll
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FAButzke is actually right in that aspect, and it was my fault that I ommited some of the things he said.
Exactly what I tried to explain to him, science is as much about disproving stuff as it is about finding new hypothesissies (sorry don;t know the plural).
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Personally, I wouldnt say that science is my religion, more like that it is my substitute of religion (it makes a difference).
As in, I dont refer to the concept of god and religious beliefs to explain stuff for me, prioritizing rationale, thus science, over them.
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Personally, I wouldnt say that science is my religion, more like that it is my substitute of religion (it makes a difference).
There are groups of atheists who meet together every week on Sunday morning. “We get called the ‘atheist church,’ but we are really all the best bits of church but with no religion,” he said, darting his lanky form up and down the aisle, arms flapping like some excitable exotic bird. “Our vision is to help people live the best life possible.” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/29/sunday-assembly-atheist-church_n_4339870.html
While science is not technically a religion, there are quite a number of similarities between the devotion to science and the devotion to God, especially when new atheists get dogmatic about it being a lack of belief or about their being no evidence for religion.
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Personally, I wouldnt say that science is my religion, more like that it is my substitute of religion (it makes a difference).
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/29/sunday-assembly-atheist-church_n_4339870.html
While science is not technically a religion, there are quite a number of similarities between the devotion to science and the devotion to God, especially when new atheists get dogmatic about it being a lack of belief or about their being no evidence for religion.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov9qLzarIFE
Post edited February 03, 2014 by pimpmonkey2382
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No. I said if you aren't a theist, you're perhaps a DEIST if especially if you waste your time going through church mumbo jumbo.
Post edited February 03, 2014 by pimpmonkey2382