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i may not whole heartedly agree with the length of sentence, however people have to learn to responsibility for their actions. you cant just say and do anything you want, and picking something which is in bad taste is even worse.
we have a lot of problems which this connects and relates to and apparently the only way people will sit up and take notice is if harsh repercussions take place.
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mistermumbles: A LoL player. Go figure. What do you expect from the biggest cesspool of a gamer community on the internet? =P
Meanwhile at the CoD kindergarten.... don't even get me started on this one :)
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mistermumbles: Screw not derailing this thread. You got my interest now. What is it that is attracting all those cops? There's gotta be something as this does seem fairly unusual.
I don't really know, honest. I guess I fit their profile of a potential danger? They do stop me a lot less when I shave.
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wpegg: So as far as I can tell, this is real, which saddens me. It does seem that he's not yet gone through the legal process, so this is more of an over-active police force than a state gone crazy. The court will (I assume) throw it out rather than send him down for eight years.

Did he have a bail hearing? Surely there was a chance there to let him out?
I suspect that he will be fined though. What he did was illegal.
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Crosmando: I tend to think this kind of stuff might be because "the law" is too rigid and programmatic. The authorities involved aren't themselves malicious, but are too tightly bound by legal procedures which they have to follow.
Actually, the authorities, especially prosecutors (who get to decide whether or not to bring charges) have quite a bit of discretion. The main cause of insanity like this is because there aren't any consequences for this kind of overreach by law enforcement. The way these things play out is that some concerned citizen (read: busybody) makes a complaint to law enforcement; this complaint may have some apparent merit, or be completely insane on its face, but the result is the same- if the investigating officer does nothing and something does happen their ass is on the line, while if they escalate the matter then they're pretty much safe. This continues at each level and you ultimately end up with the kind of situation in the OP.

On the other hand, if escalation that were deemed to be totally inappropriate resulted in people losing their jobs then you'd see quite a bit of sanity return to the system, but as it stands law enforcement and (especially) prosecutors are pretty much free from any kind of consequences, regardless of what kind of insanity they engage in.
first of the video is annoying, guy is bitching off for full minute instead of giving the bloody news

it seems the law is tight, they are ready to catch any threat that might come up, GOOD JOB, now go catch the bloody criminals and mafias and corrupted politicians whos balls your are licking, then talk about fighting crime
If sarcasm was a crime 99.999999999% of Scot people would be locked up, our daily banter is mostly sarcasm.
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AFnord: I suspect that he will be fined though. What he did was illegal.
Really? I don't see the illegality in what he has done. Please do elaborate.
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AFnord: What he did was illegal.
Well, what did he do except for embarrassing himself by making a joke in very bad taste and with little sense of tact, about a very sensitive topic? I don't condone what he wrote and I could understand his arrest if he hadn't made it clear that he was joking*, but apparantly he did so immediately, and besides, the "threat" was clearly over the top, too. If that's really considered a death threat before the law already, Jeff Dunham had better not perform in Texas with Achmed the Dead Terrorist.

Against the backdrop that I've heard quite a few US citizens deride the German ban against using swastikas as a lack of freedom of speech, I find it hard to believe that making obvious jokes, even if in bad taste, should be against the law in a US state ...

* EDIT: Scratch that, I could understand the need of investigation and interrogation; for arrest and custody I'd except a little more evidence.
Post edited June 30, 2013 by Leroux
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AFnord: I suspect that he will be fined though. What he did was illegal.
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wpegg: Really? I don't see the illegality in what he has done. Please do elaborate.
Saying that you will go down and murder someone counts as a threat, which is illegal. Even doing it in jest is not ok, unless you can make it very clear that you are doing it in jest.
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wpegg: Really? I don't see the illegality in what he has done. Please do elaborate.
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AFnord: Saying that you will go down and murder someone counts as a threat, which is illegal. Even doing it in jest is not ok, unless you can make it very clear that you are doing it in jest.
Not so sure you're right as to the legal definition of a threat, especially when it's as abstract as that. Threats need to be directed to have any kind of credibility. Regardless he really did make it clear that it was not a believable statement, so I think it's fair to say he should, and will, be let out when it comes to the courts hearing about this.
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Leroux: * EDIT: Scratch that, I could understand the need of investigation and interrogation; for arrest and custody I'd except a little more evidence.
Keep in mind U.S interrogation has a slightly different meaning, which is why we are having extradition issues.
Post edited June 30, 2013 by wpegg
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Reever: That guy's hilariously awesome :D

1) Huh? You mean in France?!
2) Please do :D
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P1na: 1) I mean Basque Country. You know, those guys speaking barbarian and blowing up things for sport, around the pyrinees? FYI, we are taught firearm handling at high school, how cool is that? According to some Spanish media, that is. There's been a case, abroad, where I told a Spanish girl I was Basque and she literally ran away from me because I was "one of those...". Dafuq.

2) Nah, I'd rather not. I've gotten run-ins with the police too many times to tell them all now, varying from funny ones like the Germany one to the machine gun from the Spanish military police. In some I did nothing wrong, but I'm the first to admit that my one arrest was (probably) justified. Let me recap, there's Italy, Belgium, China, Japan, Switzerland, Ireland, Lithuania... probably forgetting something. And of course more Spanish ones. Hey maybe I could theme a giveaway around this... or even a receiveaway. Does that term even exist? For each game you guys gift me, I tell you one of my police stories.
1) Sorry, you're listed as living in Belgium, couldn't have thought of Basque Country :D
And damn, that was a hard turn-down...

2) I'm beginning to think you might really be a terrorist, with you having so many police encounters xD I do have a Torchlight code, if you couldn't get it during the promo :P
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Reever: 1) Sorry, you're listed as living in Belgium, couldn't have thought of Basque Country :D
And damn, that was a hard turn-down...
Yeah, well, I'll be damned before I ever list myself as Spanish. It said Ireland while I was living there, I'm currently in Belgium, and if it all goes well next week it should say Germany. But my biggest police-related scare happened in France, so you weren't that far off, although it's still Basque-related.

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Reever: 2) I'm beginning to think you might really be a terrorist, with you having so many police encounters xD I do have a Torchlight code, if you couldn't get it during the promo :P
I do have it, about a couple dozen of them in fact. But I'll take it as a gesture of good faith, and tell you one (1) story. Choose well!
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AFnord: Saying that you will go down and murder someone counts as a threat, which is illegal. Even doing it in jest is not ok, unless you can make it very clear that you are doing it in jest.
The law may be a bit different in Sweden, but in the US a threat must typically be both specific and credible in order to be a criminal offense. In this case the kid's speech was neither.
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reaver894: If sarcasm was a crime 99.999999999% of Scot people would be locked up,
Would that be bad? ;-)

Seriously though. How would you manage to leave a 0.0052954 % of a person free and lock the rest up? That would correspond roughly to 4 g. Would one person be obliged to hold the tip of his little finger into freedom? Or would some strands of hair be released?