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To all who think we live in peaceful times these days and that everything was way worse in the past, here's a video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hsDn2kNriI&feature=related
What a coincidence, I was thinking about almost the same thing yesterday when I was reading the news.
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Of course it was worse in the past and we can hardly say we leave in peaceful times but no doubt even with afghanistan, libya, iraq, Chechnya it is way more peaceful than 100 years ago and not to mention 1000


The video is bollocks. Didn't you notice that there was no war in NA and SA at all during first 500 years?

Which is not true of course. Whole empires rise and fell during that time. Not to mention tribal wars, lesser in scale but because of the number as deadly as full scale war.

Same goes for Africa.

Other problem is that the video is based on very limited data. We do know more what happened on 3 of August 1943 at 11am than we know about whole decades 500 years ago.

It can be seen with year 2003 onwards. Iraq is constantly shown to being blown up while fall of Constantinople just had few small explosions. As far as wars go Iraq war can hardly be considered a great deadly conflict. Especially if we consider that most deaths comes from them blowing themselves up.

Wars happened way more often in the past. Smaller in scale (although according to wiki in 755 to 763 15% of world's population lost their lives in a war) but present in greater number.

Not to mention life was so much worse back then in every part of the world even during so called "peaceful times"
Post edited March 30, 2011 by lukaszthegreat
Impressive piece of work!

Particular events of note being the Napoleonic era, and of course the two World Wars.

Would be good if there was a wiki link to each battle or something (or perhaps the largest less well known ones)
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Andy_Panthro: Impressive piece of work!

Particular events of note being the Napoleonic era, and of course the two World Wars.

Would be good if there was a wiki link to each battle or something (or perhaps the largest less well known ones)
Shit got serious by the nineteenth century.
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Andy_Panthro: Impressive piece of work!
No it is not.
Degrading and untruthful.
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Andy_Panthro: Impressive piece of work!
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lukaszthegreat: No it is not.
Degrading and untruthful.
Maybe my eyes weren't fast enough but I missed the American Revolution and The Civil War.

Also, we wouldn't know much about native american wars pre Cortez, as Cortez helpfully burned all their records to help in their conversion to Catholicism.

And the death toll in Iraq is higher than official numbers make it out to be.
Post edited March 30, 2011 by orcishgamer
This is truely sad, Shows how far humanity has come, Shows how much technology we have, How civil and human we are, Shows how evoled we are, it Shows how we need to go back to our roots and just live together as one species as humans not depending whether your black,white,yellow,green,blue. This is madness. We must stop now.
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lukaszthegreat: No it is not.
Degrading and untruthful.
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orcishgamer: Maybe my eyes weren't fast enough but I missed the American Revolution and The Civil War.

Also, we wouldn't know much about native american wars pre Cortez, as Cortez helpfully burned all their records to help in their conversion to Catholicism.

And the death toll in Iraq is higher than official numbers make it out to be.
The records of SA wars are scarce indeed (wars of NA even more I think) We do have records tough of them happening. How many how often is hard to tell but we do know they were bloody, genocide levels at times.

The point on Iraq war is that it is presented as a major conflict lasting years. In scope of 1000 years it is not that major. Fall of Byzantine Empire for example was long and brutal conflict lasting decades till Constantinople finally fell. Yet it is presented with few blips.
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rooshandark8: This is madness. We must stop now.
Indeed. But we won't. The only accurate information is at the end of the video : "to be continued"...
Post edited March 30, 2011 by Cambrey
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rooshandark8: This is madness. We must stop now.
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Cambrey: Indeed. But we won't. The only accurate information is at the end of the video : "to be continued"...
Than we shall all be perished. But on the bright side we still have good games ;P
I don't find it untruthful, but maybe a little bit misleading. I'm sure there were tribal wars not represented in that video, but I can't honestly believe that they were near scale with 19th and 20th century war death tolls.

You know what's an even worse number than the death toll of wars? Democide. Rummel estimates that toll to be 262 million deaths in the 20th century alone. I can't say how accurate that number is, but even if you figure it at an even 200 million, that's an outrageous number.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._J._Rummel
It's impressive, but as lukasz points out it's by no means complete.
Even if its not that good, the video shows that the Balkans are one crappy place to live in.
It's awesome. But did I miss it or are there not many explosions during Genghis Khan's era?

Any videos they are like that but with highlighting of the political borders?
Post edited March 30, 2011 by cw8