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Swedrami: Awfully suspicious for this announcement to pop up just a few days after the delisting on GoG, though, isn't it?
Nah, I'll stand by my (conspiratorial) theory. Things just align up to well for this not being (one of) the reason(s) behind the delisting on GoG. I expect the rest of the few EA-published titles still listed to follow suit and be pulled the very moment their respective contracts for selling them on GoG run out, too.
I understand it's human nature to try to look for patterns and identify cause-and-effect - born out of survival instincts before civilization started. However, it's also very likely it's just a random coincidence because I don't believe there's a history of games leaving GOG to become a Zoom exclusive. There's no use trying to find links for pure randomness since it only leads to spiral, conspiratorial thinking.

You might be valid if the delisted games do get listed there shortly, though.
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fronzelneekburm: I remember what happened the last time someone had the audacity to ask Zoom a mildly uncomfortable question on Twitter. It didn't end well. (And it played a major part in why I don't hold the place in particularly high regard)
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Linko64: I'm sorry to hear that, though i can't tell you exactly what happened (or even when, i assume it was a while back before i worked with them) i can assure you requests/questions are always answered so feel free to shoot again and hopefully this time it won't deflect into your chest, bust soak deep into my spongey chest!
Oh, that was waaaaaaaay back before your time and didn't even concern me personally lol. It was some gog/Zoom behind the scenes drama about (IIRC) Killing Time. Whoever handled Zoom's Twitter at the time had a public hissy fit about it and when concerned goggers asked what this was all about, they were told that it was none of their business. Just struck me as a bonehead move and it left a sour taste in my mouth when I read about it on this forum.

Much more important issues that do concern the here-and-now version of Zoom:
- When are you guys going to overhaul the website? This has been asked before, but I'll reiterate it because holy hell the current website is awful and this should be the top priority. Especially browsing the catalogue and the main page.
- Are you guys ever doing sales?
- Are you guys releasing the Red Candle Games titles (Detention, Devotion) any time soon? If you're going to get yourselves firewall'd, might as well do it while you're still small. ;)
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Linko64: I'm sorry to hear that, though i can't tell you exactly what happened (or even when, i assume it was a while back before i worked with them) i can assure you requests/questions are always answered so feel free to shoot again and hopefully this time it won't deflect into your chest, bust soak deep into my spongey chest!
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fronzelneekburm: Oh, that was waaaaaaaay back before your time and didn't even concern me personally lol. It was some gog/Zoom behind the scenes drama about (IIRC) Killing Time. Whoever handled Zoom's Twitter at the time had a public hissy fit about it and when concerned goggers asked what this was all about, they were told that it was none of their business. Just struck me as a bonehead move and it left a sour taste in my mouth when I read about it on this forum.

Much more important issues that do concern the here-and-now version of Zoom:
- When are you guys going to overhaul the website? This has been asked before, but I'll reiterate it because holy hell the current website is awful and this should be the top priority. Especially browsing the catalogue and the main page.
- Are you guys ever doing sales?
- Are you guys releasing the Red Candle Games titles (Detention, Devotion) any time soon? If you're going to get yourselves firewall'd, might as well do it while you're still small. ;)
I'm sorry to hear that, i think the Killing Time topic is well known among GOG users, but that's in the past and all i can promise is a little more care and dedication to coms rather than the limited time they had (mostly to not having anyone in the role!)

As for the other points -

Website is being worked on as we speak to make it much nicer to look at and use. The main focus is also to make it a breeze to view games by their release dates, publishers etc just so those looking for that game they kinda remember from 1994 have a easy chance finding it.

Sales are something that is being worked on. The main issue with sales is having the time to work on them and create the line between the relevant parties. With more people on board, those in the know can focus on dealing with the sales and getting them approved and live.


As for Devotion, we did reach out to them as noted in our discord, which was posted here, but that was about it. From a personal perspective, i think they understood that releasing it via their own site would probably make them more money and more control. They wouldn't even need to market it.




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Linko64: Again, Gut feelings are fine but alas if you don't reach out or ask question, how do you expect your gut feeling to change?
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WinterSnowfall: Well, you ingest news and occurrences as things progress and sometimes the gut behaves in completely different ways. It is, after all, a gut :P.

Having a nice and open community manager and all is good, but my gut is still obstinate. Perhaps it's because I know good people working in a bad place is a thing. I work for the devil himself and know his ways. What can I say, he pays well.

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Linko64: EA and Zoom working together has long been in the pipeline. As people keep pointing out, we're a small fish so it makes zero sense for the theory that we have somehow pushed out a company owned by one of the richest in the indusrty.
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WinterSnowfall: Admit it, you have dirt on EA and are blackmailing them! Oh, wait, I forgot... everyone has dirt on EA, because it's public and there's plenty of it. Nevermind then :P.
I get it, well hopefully we can change the gut feeling in time that's part of the job!


If we had dirt we'd use it to get Future Cop L.A.P.D!
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Linko64: ...
Hi, i am the community manager for Zoom-Platform. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out. I look forward to helping those who seek it and slapping down those who fancy a cheeky lie about it. Think of it like pre-Rock feud Stone Cold.
Hello, I have a couple of questions (nothing important).

1. When was the Linux build for Zone Raiders released? I need to fill a gap in PCGamingWiki.
2. Out of curiosity, does the Jordan Freeman Group preserve/own the source code for some of the games they publish?
3. Are there any plans for sales? Edit: Nevermind.
Post edited July 04, 2021 by Lugamo
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Centur10n86: Looks like Zoom may have picked up some EA classics.
maybe thats why gog lost ultima underworld etc
Nice....seems Zoom is moving up in the world. That said, if they do get bigger some day, I hope they don't lose touch with their founding principles/user base as GOG has over the years.

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WinterSnowfall: I'm not sure why, but I've always been wary of Zoom. This new association with EA, especially if GOG does not get the same deal, only makes me even more wary.
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Mr.Mumbles: Pfft. It doesn't make the situation any more legal if stores play the intentional ignorance card.
If y'all don't trust Zoom, there's a simple solution(which applies to everyone voicing similar things ITT): contact the rights holders of the games Zoom offers and get some answers. :)
Post edited July 04, 2021 by GamezRanker
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Crosmando: Can someone explain what Zoom even is? A quick google says it's some kind of video conferencing program?
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Yes, that is indeed what most people mean when they say Zoom.

However, on GOG in particular, that's not what they are talking about.

Rather, they are talking about another Zoom which has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with and zero connection to the well-known Zoom which you are talking about.

When GOG forum posters say Zoom, they are talking about an extremely tiny, ultra-obscure, DRM-free store, that almost nobody in the world knows about...other than a few GOG customers.

And the fact the obscure Zoom shares their name with the mega-popular Zoom videocalling software...that just makes the obscure Zoom more obscure than ever and almost impossible to find on the internet via search engines...hence the fact that the obscure Zoom leaves their name as that bespeaks great foolishness on their owner's part.
Interesting, do they have any exclusive old games GOG/Steam don't?
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Crosmando: Interesting, do they have any exclusive old games GOG/Steam don't?
From what I can recall: Sport Actua games, Zone Raiders, Killing Time it's free there, Knowledge Adventure titles, the classic Duke Nukem games, Softporn Adventure.
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Linko64: Hi, i am the community manager for Zoom-Platform. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out. I look forward to helping those who seek it and slapping down those who fancy a cheeky lie about it. Think of it like pre-Rock feud Stone Cold.
Question: Will Zoom ever sell gift codes? I want to buy games for others in such a fashion, but Zoom currently lacks such a feature.

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Crosmando: Interesting, do they have any exclusive old games GOG/Steam don't?
I know they have the original version of Duke Nukem 3D and also Manhattan Project.
Post edited July 04, 2021 by GamezRanker
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Linko64: Yes, the website is being redone! It's no secert the website is dated and lacking some fuctions. The main goals with the redesign is to make it easier to browse, make it cleaner, easier to chase down titles by date as well as better use of screenshots, copy and videos rather than random youtube clips!

Forum is on the checklist, but will come later. For now, Discord is the main community tab we tend to use
Nice to know. Looking forward to checking out the re-designed webpage.
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Crosmando: Interesting, do they have any exclusive old games GOG/Steam don't?
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Lugamo: From what I can recall: Sport Actua games, Zone Raiders, Killing Time it's free there, Knowledge Adventure titles, the classic Duke Nukem games, Softporn Adventure.
Cool. Still not gonna buy anything there though, as there's no guarantee that customers won't lose all their games the same way DotEmu customers did.
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Crosmando: Cool. Still not gonna buy anything there though, as there's no guarantee that customers won't lose all their games the same way DotEmu customers did.
They are 100% DRM-free offline installers. As long as you have the files backed up, you can't 'lose' the games.
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Lugamo: From what I can recall: Sport Actua games, Zone Raiders, Killing Time it's free there, Knowledge Adventure titles, the classic Duke Nukem games, Softporn Adventure.
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Crosmando: Cool. Still not gonna buy anything there though, as there's no guarantee that customers won't lose all their games the same way DotEmu customers did.
This is simply untrue. When you purhcase a game, it is yours. ALL Zoom-platform titles are DRM-free, offline installers. As you can seem my copy of Alien Trilogy is still in my account, even though the title was delisted. Hope this clears up any confusion.
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Linko64: Hi, i am the community manager for Zoom-Platform. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out. I look forward to helping those who seek it and slapping down those who fancy a cheeky lie about it. Think of it like pre-Rock feud Stone Cold.
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GamezRanker: Question: Will Zoom ever sell gift codes? I want to buy games for others in such a fashion, but Zoom currently lacks such a feature.
Gift codes is something we are looking at, along with addtional payment methods to ensure users around the world have as many option open to them. But for now, the main focus is adding titles and web page redesign.
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Linko64: ...
Hi, i am the community manager for Zoom-Platform. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out. I look forward to helping those who seek it and slapping down those who fancy a cheeky lie about it. Think of it like pre-Rock feud Stone Cold.
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Lugamo: Hello, I have a couple of questions (nothing important).

1. When was the Linux build for Zone Raiders released? I need to fill a gap in PCGamingWiki.
2. Out of curiosity, does the Jordan Freeman Group preserve/own the source code for some of the games they publish?
3. Are there any plans for sales? Edit: Nevermind.
1. Further Linux support is something we (again) looking into. We do want to cover Windows/Mac/Linux as much as we can, but i can't promise you a timeframe for Linux releases. But, be sure that we are working on it.

2. It really depends per game, as with a number of cases similar to this kinda of work. But just to be clear, everything is legal, there's no funny business going on else we would have been closed a long time ago...or Lance Boyle would have opened up a OnlyFans account by now!
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Crosmando: Cool. Still not gonna buy anything there though, as there's no guarantee that customers won't lose all their games the same way DotEmu customers did.
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Time4Tea: They are 100% DRM-free offline installers. As long as you have the files backed up, you can't 'lose' the games.
That's not my point. There's no knowing if this Zoom platform will even last, and if it does go bankrupt/close shop then you won't be able to re-download your games ever again. With GOG the chances that this place with ever close is pretty low.
Post edited July 04, 2021 by Crosmando
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Time4Tea: They are 100% DRM-free offline installers. As long as you have the files backed up, you can't 'lose' the games.
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Crosmando: That's not my point. There's no knowing if this Zoom platform will even last, and if it does go bankrupt/close shop then you won't be able to re-download your games ever again. With GOG the chances that this place with ever close is pretty low.
Why would you need to re-download the games, if you have backed up your offline installers? For newer games, you have a point regarding updates, but for older games (which form most of what ZP sells), that isn't really an issue.

Another point: the exact same could be said for any new up-and-coming DRM-free store. By that logic, we should never give any new DRM-free store a chance then, because there is a possibility they could close. There was a time when GOG was a small store trying to get off the ground - it grew because people had faith in it and supported it.
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Crosmando: Still not gonna buy anything there though, as there's no guarantee that customers won't lose all their games the same way DotEmu customers did.
With any site, especially a small somewhat non-mainstream one like the ZOOM Platform, you would have to be a fool to not download your purchases immediately. Such sites should only be seen as an additional backup, not your main backup. In fact, you should have at least two local backups, and the store be your third one.

And you should also save web pages or the details from them for each game, though basic blurb can be found at many gaming websites.

Shit happens.