Time4Tea: Well, GOG staff/employees/executives rarely say anything at all, do they? When was the last time you heard anything from GOG's CEO? Had a conversation with GOG's Chief Technical Officer? I like the fact that Zoom communicate with their customers. They speak freely and frankly and not through a PR-filter and Jordan is often very open and transparent about goings on behind the scenes. They are human beings and sometimes make mistakes and say things they maybe shouldn't. Darn those imperfect humans - let's haul them up to the gallows and replace them with robots! ;-)

Time4Tea: Agreed. A lot of this really comes across as a wild, frothing-at-the-mouth mob attack.

Time4Tea: Well, GOG staff/employees/executives rarely say anything at all, do they? When was the last time you heard anything from GOG's CEO? Had a conversation with GOG's Chief Technical Officer? I like the fact that Zoom communicate with their customers. They speak freely and frankly and not through a PR-filter and Jordan is often very open and transparent about goings on behind the scenes. They are human beings and sometimes make mistakes and say things they maybe shouldn't. Darn those imperfect humans - let's haul them up to the gallows and replace them with robots! ;-)

Time4Tea: Why would it? It has nothing to do with the subjects of the boycott.

RoboPond: And theres the typical Zoom response of making a joke.

Thats why Zoom gets mouthed off so much here. If GOG staff/moderators commented here saying how much they hate Zoom and think their customer support is a joke you'd be up in arms and make a whole thing about it.

RoboPond: And also you failed to comment on GOG Users called out on Discord.

Time4Tea: Yes, I made a little 'joke' at the end there. You'll have to forgive me for trying to lighten the mood a little ...

But, I think my key point is pretty valid: they are not perfect, but at least they communicate. I have literally never seen a direct statement made by Piotr Karwowski (PR-filtered or otherwise). But, if you prefer dealing with a monolithic corporation that doesn't communicate, that's your prerogative.

Time4Tea: I don't really see a problem with people talking about other people. It happens all the time on most forums/chat spaces.

Timboli: Unbelievable folks, you are ganging up like bullies and thugs ... mob rule even.

I don't like ZOOM Platform's high prices, and they will likely die or stagnate if they don't improve.

Just ignore all the other banter etc. Adding to a turf war between GOG and ZP isn't going to improve things for DRM-Free, quite the opposite, and so while you may think you are helping GOG, all you are doing is assisting GOG's enemies.

ZOOM Platform are far from a credible threat to GOG, so leave them to their growing pains and move on.

QWEEDDYZ: To a customer service, i appreaciate they both if they provide as much as they can.

I mean Jordan response almost immediatly. About game been removed for time beign (not even have a store page fully fucntionallity). But at next day it become avaialble. Same for few other titles recetnly released (Sacred is not of them, my mistake, should be something else, cant say now which one). Ofc there is a lot of not avaialble games (and some still not listed in catalogue). But when it possible to be solved ASAP - it be solved on ZOOM ASAP. Again, i mean here game avalability.

GOG just dont hunt games anymore. Its probably not like thay should, we cant blame them seriously for that. But we can appreciate ZOOM job.

i dont like both WhyNots1 guy here, someone on ZOOM discord recently asking to acc deletion, and i dont like GOG's forums whine\boykoting. We as customers - lets just respect both stores for what they got for us. it is GOG who started it, who make some standard's. ZOOM just follow them. And keep follow while GOG not just same as been before. Even if they state that in that year that they try to become Goold Old Games again.

Yes, m probably wrong here. Maybe even about "childish". But its not only WhyNots1 who say here he is 'out of ZOOM businees' for that. Its also childish to boycotting both GOG or ZOOM. They didnt do anything to us for that. Go boycott Steam and FatGabe - he almost always ruin PC gaming (from late '00s for sure). And steam-versions of games always wrost ones, awful broken delivery system going ore broken since 2014 (and more broken since that again).
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This is the differences. ZOOM hunt for keeping games on sale. GOG let if flow.

GOG'ers not interesting to fight for each release be possible, and more important - to keep already re-released games stay available. Did you remember free giveaway of going to be removed games at the end of '14? Good Old GOG.
Most important that EA(EA-Codemasters) games are split exclusively on few stores and been removed in one = removed at all. I dont think it is more important for ZOOM'ers to not get lost own exclusives releases than lost DRM-free games at all. QWEEDDYZ: Lets just back to official statemnets. Public letter was about EA. There is nothing wrong there for me (maybe im wrong). They (Jordan) have rights to think what they think about GOG. But yes, there is words against GOG. That they are worse than ZOOM.
As for "hey, 6 former exclusives been released on GOG!". Again, official public statement mention only price drop competition, and that its not fully possible. There is no any word against GOG there. Admiting that fact they set as much lower price as they can (for any reasons).

Jordan mistake about games avaialbility: most games are for Origin. Some old games in origin from GOG initially, and stiil on GOG. While GOG have not all, Steam have nothing of old EA games, some exclusives have ZOOM. Not looks like curently EA a "big friend" with GOG.

RoboPond: A joke at the end your entire post was a normal Zoom reply (when you replied with a direct one for A Vampyre Story I thought you were better than that, but it seems not.)

So what your saying is communicating bad is fine as that is communicating and if GOG staff/moderators made a comment about Zoom it woulsn't be massively overblown by you and Zoom?

I find that very hard to belive, more so as you created a "boycott" against GOG already.

And also thats not great business, so you could say that comment alone will bring Zoom down as thats like Wallmart tweeting Cosco and saying "Yeah your in store policy sucks." and that tweet was fine.

And talking about the public spec by username on another site that they can't defend them selves with publicly is NEVER good.

None of what you are saying is painting Zoom in a great light tbh.

RoboPond: A joke at the end your entire post was a normal Zoom reply (when you replied with a direct one for A Vampyre Story I thought you were better than that, but it seems not.)

So what your saying is communicating bad is fine as that is communicating and if GOG staff/moderators made a comment about Zoom it woulsn't be massively overblown by you and Zoom?

I find that very hard to belive, more so as you created a "boycott" against GOG already.

And also thats not great business, so you could say that comment alone will bring Zoom down as thats like Wallmart tweeting Cosco and saying "Yeah your in store policy sucks." and that tweet was fine.

And talking about the public spec by username on another site that they can't defend them selves with publicly is NEVER good.

None of what you are saying is painting Zoom in a great light tbh.

QWEEDDYZ: GOG just dont hunt games anymore. Its probably not like thay should, we cant blame them seriously for that. But we can appreciate ZOOM job.

Syphon72: He's good at turning a blind eye to Zoom.

RoboPond: I've noticed thats like Zoom 101, also making a joke when things get tough to deflect then not really answering and saying we will never agree. Doesn't change the fact that GOG members are being singled out and talked about on by username on Zoom's Discord. It was a troll this time, but doesn't change the fact their username was mentioned there and not removed by a admin/moderator.

Edit: And thats its fine for Zoom staff/moderators to activley bad mouth companies they don't like publicly.

Time4Tea: I addressed all of your points, but it seems we have a fundamental difference of opinion. I respect that Jordan communicates openly and speaks his mind, at the risk of possibly upsetting some people. It seems that you don't - you are upset because he's said some things that you don't like. I personally love Zoom's open communication and would hate to see Jordan become silent and reticent (the way GOG's execs are), through fear that he might offend someone. I truly hope he doesn't change.

Again, it seems to come down to a difference of opinion and I'm not sure what more there is to say beyond that. I'm fine with accepting you have a different opinion to me, but is the opposite true for you? From your last couple of posts, it seems maybe not ... ?

Time4Tea: I addressed all of your points, but it seems we have a fundamental difference of opinion. I respect that Jordan communicates openly and speaks his mind, at the risk of possibly upsetting some people. It seems that you don't - you are upset because he's said some things that you don't like. I personally love Zoom's open communication and would hate to see Jordan become silent and reticent (the way GOG's execs are), through fear that he might offend someone. I truly hope he doesn't change.

Again, it seems to come down to a difference of opinion and I'm not sure what more there is to say beyond that. I'm fine with accepting you have a different opinion to me, but is the opposite true for you? From your last couple of posts, it seems maybe not ... ?

RoboPond: What I am talking about is you and other Zoom members openly posting negative things about another company in public and then allowing singling out GOG members by usernames on a platform or a channel that most will not know about.

How are you not seeing that its wrong? How are you not seeing the double standard that its fine for you do make comments about GOG there but when the same comments get made about Zoom here you call it bad?

wolfsite: Wow, can't even make a single reply without taking a shot at GOG while acting like a victim. Maybe take care of the issues in your own house before you throw stones at others.