Ebay, gumtree, other sites. The Xbox was from a colleague who brought an xbone (that came with Halo I think). PS3 off Ebay, £78 + £24.50 P&P with 20 games (not 5 as I mentioned above, just checked my Ebay account). The Xbox games were via Gumtree, I went to collect them, that was exactly £1 a piece, only 3 of them were the chuck away sports ones, and it included Fable 3 book style, Dishonored Special Edition, and COD: BO Hardened.

You just have to be lucky, and keep looking around. Avoid the game re-sellers, they are way too pricey, buy job-lots its cheaper. I used to work at a place, some 10 years ago which had an internal selling website, pre/post Christmas you could pick up some real deals.

The indie game scene is still quite young in Japan, however it seems to only be getting bigger. The most famous ones in the West are games like La-Mulana and PixelJunk. D4 probably counts as well. Yeah we tend to forget that for every Western indie game that stands out for its greatness we have 10's if not 100's that never really make it.

Yes I understood that what you wrote was a response to the other guy's argument, I just wanted to support your argument with some numbers.

The argument that all AAA games on PC are much cheaper than on console is a myth; sometimes the console version is cheaper other times the PC one. It also varies from country to country and whether or not you buy the digital version of the console game or the hard-copy one, as hard-copies tend to be significantly cheaper than the downloadable versions.

Why? console version price can beat humble bundle and such?

To clarify things: this discussion was about the launch prices of AAA games that appear on PC as well as on console.

1) the vast majority of "bundle" games are indie games and/or older PC games...not AAA games
2) the vast majority of "bundle" games are PC exclusives
3) this discussion is about launch prices...not prices 5 years after release

No, the discussion was about whether or not to buy and xbone or a ps4. My point was that at release and currently, they are extremely expensive and that waiting a few years means you can buy them a lot cheaper.
This.is the only point, nothing about pc's or not buying consoles, or anything else. Please stop trying to turn my point into an argument about something else.

What? You mean an AAA game now would cease to be AAA after 5 years?

I thought AAA stands for great games that are worth playing?

Whilst I understand why the PS4 is a much trendier option, I think the Xbone will have a more lasting appeal. It might be lacking a little in the tech department but it has over all more uses which appeals to me more.

No, but AAA games will still get price drops during those 5 years depending on how they did.

Making bundle pricing a standard of any sort is silly because you can never know if that one game will ever be on a bundle to begin with. You might as well compare bundles to how you can get games for $5 each month (or less) on PS4/PS3/Vita through PS+

D4 had funding by M$ I believe.

Without bundling, usually most games drop to 50% or more in a year.

If you are unwilling to wait of course there is no discount and you pay full price regardless of any platform.

But that does not mean those willing to wait cannot get the game for cheap.

That is a question to R8V9F5A2 when he claim that all AAA games on PC are much cheaper than on console is a myth, because console games rarely go as cheap as PC would
And you need to have a PS4/PS3/PS2/PS1/vita in working condition.

What should be made a standard for comparison then? The overall cheapness of PC vs console games?

Read this detailed comparison, I guess it will be very useful for you.
PS4 vs Xbox One: which is better?

Why would you need working PS2/PS1? I don't get it.

I don't even get the point about working condition since you obviously need a PC in working condition to play games bought from bundles.

As full price they hover around the same prices depending on publishers. Funnily enough the digital prices are usually the more expensive ones on consoles.

Console game prices drop over time both digitally and physically it's a matter of patience in both cases but if publishers want they can just keep on keeping the prices up. For example Activision keeps on keeping CoD highly priced even on PC and often there are sales where a specific game might go for -75% at one point but after that it will never go as low because it got popular again.

If I had to buy a console, I would go for the Playstation. Even if I am late, I still want to get a PS3. The same applies to the newest gen, I'd grab a PS4. That is unless you are fond on the XBOX exclusives of course, which as you point out, it is mainly Halo and GoW. The other games, even if some will appear sooner on XBOX, (I recall reading something about that with the next Tomb Raider, but don't quote me on that), you'll still get them on the PS4.

1 PC in working condition as opposed to 4 consoles in working condition that you should find a place to store, when not using. Also the PC can be used for a hell lot more things than gaming. Although with the PC we obviously have the problem with OS compatibility issue - how would you play XP game on 10? But nevertheless the PC compatibility issues looks better.

I read you wrongly and thought you are saying you can get the games for cheap on the older consoles too.

So I thought to point out that the playstation don't have backward compatibility and you need working old consoles to enjoy the old games. While the PC have huge backward compatibility thanks to various emulators