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RDouglass1: *snip*
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viperfdl: To scan the pirate base you just have to get really close, less than 100 meter. You then get a message that the scan started. Then you only have to wait until you get message that the scan has been finished and you can fly back.
They also want me to Scan The Ship I am following, "If Possible", and I have been withing 45 Meters of the thing, and I do not see ANY Scan Option, Not on My Targeting ICON on Left Bar, and Not Under Options for BIND Keys...

I do see a Scanner, "Duplex??" Mounted on my Ship, But I have yet to see the Scan Option appear...

I Have to Keep going Back and Forth Between THREE Systems, Following the same ship OVER, and OVER, and OVER!!

I have had to re-run these same three systems now FOUR OR FIVE Times!!

The Last time, The Pirate Disapeared Into "Unknown" System, and The Guy Is Sending me BACK INTO The Last System I JUST CAME FROM!!!

This game seems to be Caught In A LOOP THAT NEVER ENDS!!!
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RDouglass1:
The tutorial in X3:TC and X3:AP sux. It was a lot better in X3:Reunion. I suggest just skipping it.

To do a normal scan of an object (some plot scans are done like viperfdl mentioned above) you go to the menu OR use the hot key (sorry, forgot if it was bound by default) and in the menu the under menu for your target. There is the scan option so long as you have a scanner installed. Cargo scanner? Mineral scanner? I forgot what you needed. The Duplex and Triplex (get this one asap!) are for seeing further on your minimap.

The weapon systems for missiles and cannons are separate. The number 1-4 and their use is something you have to setup yourself. Default is that 1 uses all installed cannons simultaneously. ALL weapons, missiles too, need to be installed for you to be able to fire them. One key for installing/cycling through type of missile; another for actually firing them (one at a time).

The cash pay for doing missions, when your reputation and notoriety is low, is peanuts but they are excellent means of raising your notoriety. May I suggest doing a follow that ship mission only once and then never look at them ever again. <shudder>

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Maybe I should reinstall the Terran War pack on this computer in order to be able to help better. Not played X since last winter.
Post edited October 14, 2018 by Themken
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Themken: The tutorial in X3:TC and X3:AP sux. It was a lot better in X3:Reunion. I suggest just skipping it.
I am in X3-TC, No other subsets installed.

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Themken: To do a normal scan of an object (some plot scans are done like viperfdl mentioned above) you go to the menu OR use the hot key (sorry, forgot if it was bound by default) and in the menu the under menu for your target. There is the scan option so long as you have a scanner installed. Cargo scanner? Mineral scanner? I forgot what you needed. The Duplex and Triplex (get this one asap!) are for seeing further on your minimap.
I see in my Cargo, I have a Duplex Installed, But when I get near objects, like the Pirate ship, or even the base when I went in there, I do not see any Options Fro Scan, either in the Left Side Bar Target ICON, Nor When I Click The Target with my M<ouse, Nor Under Any of the 3 Lists Of BIND Keys in The Options, Controls Section of Menus.

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Themken: The cash pay for doing missions, when your reputation and notoriety is low, is peanuts but they are excellent means of raising your notoriety. May I suggest doing a follow that ship mission only once and then never look at them ever again. <shudder>
I have yet to get to the END Of This Mission... Jackson KEEPS On Sending me back and forth Between PTNE HQ, Scale Plate Green, and Nyana's Hideout, OVER, and OVER, and OVER Again.. After last night, and more than Two Hours This am, I have gone to all of them at Least 8 Times now, and he Never sends me Into Unknown To Scan The Pirate Base... It is Getting to the Point of Being Futile!! (I did Fly Into That System before I shut down this am, and could Not Scan The Base even when I got Close to it.

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Themken: Maybe I should reinstall the Terran War pack on this computer in order to be able to help better. Not played X since last winter.
Would be apreciated, but that is your choice. Thanks for the offer.

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RDouglass1: *snip*
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viperfdl: To scan the pirate base you just have to get really close, less than 100 meter. You then get a message that the scan started. Then you only have to wait until you get message that the scan has been finished and you can fly back.
I did Fly Into the Unknown System, Found The Pirate Base, Got Very Close to it, and Still Have NO SCAN Option......
Post edited October 14, 2018 by RDouglass1
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RDouglass1: I did Fly Into the Unknown System, Found The Pirate Base, Got Very Close to it, and Still Have NO SCAN Option......
The scan should start automatically. It's not a menu option that you could chose.
Yes, the scanning of that base started automatically when you stayed right on top of it.

There are plot walkthroughs and loads of other nice information on:
https://roguey.co.uk/x3tc/
https://www.x3wiki.com/index.php/Main_Page

Downloading and installing the game for the nth time now. I was going to leave it off this computer until I had finished Unreal but oh well. UI details slipped my mind.
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RDouglass1: I did Fly Into the Unknown System, Found The Pirate Base, Got Very Close to it, and Still Have NO SCAN Option......
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viperfdl: The scan should start automatically. It's not a menu option that you could chose.
Ah... I am Listening to Jackson when he says, "Scan It If You Can..." He does not say something Simple to Understand, Like, "Fly Close to the Base to Scan It"


In my Game as A Trader, I could Scan Asteroids and Such with a Mouse Click on Items, or The Targeting ICON on the Left.
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Themken: Yes, the scanning of that base started automatically when you stayed right on top of it.

There are plot walkthroughs and loads of other nice information on:
https://roguey.co.uk/x3tc/
https://www.x3wiki.com/index.php/Main_Page

Downloading and installing the game for the nth time now. I was going to leave it off this computer until I had finished Unreal but oh well. UI details slipped my mind.
I Looked at some of the Roguery Comments section, But I do not see anything about How To Complete this Mission Since I am In a LOOP That Never Ends...

How can I Get Jackson to SEND ME Into Unknown Sector To END This Mission??

I Really do not want to Fly Into the Last Three Systems 10 more times each...
I Found The Terran Plot Walk Through...

Will Print the darned thing out, and Read as I fly Through it...

Question: In Mars I get a Scout to replace the start ship... Should I swithch to the Scout or Keep my heavier ship??
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RDouglass1:
Here is one smart way to play the game: Switch personal ship according to what you want to do. Sometimes a small, fast ship is much better than a big with a lot of firepower. That base scanning plot mission, I did it in a Kestrel, a tiny M5 which is incredibly fast while able to fit a Triplex scanner and a jumpdrive too.
Post edited October 14, 2018 by Themken
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RDouglass1:
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Themken: Here is one smart way to play the game: Switch personal ship according to what you want to do. Sometimes a small, fast ship is much better than a big with a lot of firepower. That base scanning plot mission, I did it in a Kestrel, a tiny M5 which is incredibly fast while able to fit a Triplex scanner and a jumpdrive too.
Thanks, I am Trying to learn as I go, and there is a LOT To Learn...

As I was stuck in that Loop, and it was a New Game Anyway, I Junked That, and Started another new one.
To get a Base, I am Making Runs to the Ships I had Found in My Trader Game.
I Have 4 of those already, and have Two more to get before I go back to Earth Sectors...
I have at least one Freighter w/750 Cargo, so will trade to build up which ever I want to keep.

Thanks for all The Help on these things.
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RDouglass1: I did Fly Into the Unknown System, Found The Pirate Base, Got Very Close to it, and Still Have NO SCAN Option......
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viperfdl: The scan should start automatically. It's not a menu option that you could chose.
Yes, It does just that, at Close Range, and takes a few seconds.
Post edited October 15, 2018 by RDouglass1
New start: Unholy Traitor for those who know.
This Terran Defender Senario Has brought out another Issue that is Troubling to me.

In my effort to get some funds, I went out into the Galaxy to get several ships I had found as a Trader in my earlier game...

Two of Those ships were Freighters, or more correctly Transports??
One was Originall a Luxury Passenger Transport, and the Other a slave Transport ship.

The first has a Cargo Space of Over 1,000, and the second, a bit over 700.
When I get either of these on an Ore Station, or an Ice Station, as they have in Earth Sector, I can not BUY Either of those Items.

I am Wondering why???

In My Trader Game, I beleive I used Both of these ships, for a time, to do just what I am Trying to do here, and they worked fine as I recall.
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RDouglass1: *snip*
Ore and ice are XL size wares.
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RDouglass1: *snip*
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viperfdl: Ore and ice are XL size wares.
SSSOOOO, I Have The Cargo Capacity, But I do not have the Higher ship Class Needed??

Going to be Darned Slow making $$ on Energy and Water...
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RDouglass1: Going to be Darned Slow making $$ on Energy and Water...
Trading in the Terran sectors is awful in my experience. I never start in there.

So you have the size of the cargo bay (ie 450) and the the size CLASS it can carry (S, M, L, XL, ST). They can always carry smaller, never bigger. A ship can have a cargo bay of merely 500 and still be able to take XL class cargo or it can have a cargo bay that is 1000 big but limited to only L size.
Post edited October 15, 2018 by Themken