Posted June 28, 2019
Nice video card too B.T.W. better then mine I can tell you!
Mines a GTX 1080 ti
fr33kSh0w2012
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Registered: Jul 2009
From Australia
Nice video card too B.T.W. better then mine I can tell you!
Mines a GTX 1080 ti
Tauto
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Registered: Jul 2015
From Australia
Posted June 28, 2019
I split the drive to 2TB in "C" and "D" drive.
Nice video card too B.T.W. better then mine I can tell you!
Mines a GTX 1080 ti
Post edited June 28, 2019 by Tauto
DetouR6734
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Registered: May 2015
From United Kingdom
Posted June 28, 2019
I split the drive to 2TB in "C" and "D" drive.
The HDD can fail just as easily mechanically, sure your data is there, but how much will that cost, and can you truly trust the person accessing it?
You should always have multiple drives, be it SSD or a HDD for easy use, and always have a backup outside of that such as a USB stick.
OS on the first drive, and basic software/drivers only makes for easy formatting.
Games and files on the second makes for an easy reinstallation, of which i can be back up and running within an hour, OS/Drivers/Software.
If one fails, you have the other. And if both fail, you have a USB backup. Large 2+TB drives are for the most party utterly pointless unless you are doing video editing, or have a few really large games.
I seriously wouldn't want to lose 2TB of data.
Cavalary
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Registered: May 2011
From Romania
Posted June 28, 2019
^^ That.
Always have multiple drives, and multiple partitions, both to minimize potential losses (and needed copying in case of reinstalls) and for organization.
I have a SSD (250 Gb) and 2 HDDs (500 and 250 Gb), that between them have 8 partitions (10 if you count the "system reserved" ones, one active one for an old Windows install on a HDD). 3 partitions are unused (one is that old Windows install just left there; one was the games and documents partition on the HDD it was on, which I moved to the SSD when I got that, but didn't extend the other partition to include it, so it's just left there; one is the system partition on the SSD, where I'm yet to install, will probably only do that on the next computer). The remaining five are: system (HDD1), games and documents (SSD), kits and media (HDD2), safe (HDD2 - a small partition where the stuff I can't just get again, so documents, personal pictures, game saves, are backed up automatically daily), backup (HDD1 - contents of both safe and kits and media partitions are backed up there daily automatically, and GOG game kits also go there). So the stuff I can't just get again is on both HDDs and the SSD, and the kits and media on both HDDs as well. (Also have an image of the system partition, plus the contents of backup, backed up manually, monthly or so, on an external HDD.) So if something fails, *shrug* If it's not the system, just change some drive letters. If it is, restore that elsewhere from backup.
Always have multiple drives, and multiple partitions, both to minimize potential losses (and needed copying in case of reinstalls) and for organization.
I have a SSD (250 Gb) and 2 HDDs (500 and 250 Gb), that between them have 8 partitions (10 if you count the "system reserved" ones, one active one for an old Windows install on a HDD). 3 partitions are unused (one is that old Windows install just left there; one was the games and documents partition on the HDD it was on, which I moved to the SSD when I got that, but didn't extend the other partition to include it, so it's just left there; one is the system partition on the SSD, where I'm yet to install, will probably only do that on the next computer). The remaining five are: system (HDD1), games and documents (SSD), kits and media (HDD2), safe (HDD2 - a small partition where the stuff I can't just get again, so documents, personal pictures, game saves, are backed up automatically daily), backup (HDD1 - contents of both safe and kits and media partitions are backed up there daily automatically, and GOG game kits also go there). So the stuff I can't just get again is on both HDDs and the SSD, and the kits and media on both HDDs as well. (Also have an image of the system partition, plus the contents of backup, backed up manually, monthly or so, on an external HDD.) So if something fails, *shrug* If it's not the system, just change some drive letters. If it is, restore that elsewhere from backup.
ariaspi
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BFBunny
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Posted June 29, 2019
NVME drive.
fr33kSh0w2012
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illiousintahl
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Registered: Apr 2010
From Australia
Posted June 29, 2019
I wouldn't bother with an SSDl get an m.2 drive (an NVMe one as the other type are just anouther slow SSD).
I'd recommend at least a 500gb one with a 100gb partition for OS 400GB for games.
I mean I'm running a 1tb M2 NVMe and with modern games and my GOG library I managed to fill it up in like 1 day of installs, so you can definitely fill it.
The thing is if your not going 2tb which arguably the price at the moment is for 'early adopters' for such a thing (read exorbitant); you are probably not going to use it as your everyday drive.
Especially with a small 500gb M.2 NVMe it means you are going to swap things in and out of it on a niegh constant basis, which probably isn't too good for the memory; plus if you have to delete a few folders and copy and paste a pre-install folder in then obviously your not using that speed properly.
Not saying you can't curate it, just that it could be a pain in the arse that also wears your expensive piece of technology.
You will however want a spinning rust drive for a number of good reasons.
a) Large storage (especially if you run the drive compressed)
b) Archival. Slow sometimes isn't a noticeable factor for example with standard bit rate DVD movies I mean I can't tell you the last time i even watched a 4k movie from any source lately and i run 4k natively.
c) Security. It's easier to have data security when you can simply rewrite the bits on a HDD (something that is *iffy on an SSD); and second to this backing up data should always be a priority and currently SSD's are about 4x the cost per GB which means a 2tb SSD equates to having 2x4tb HDD's which you can either raid or keep one as an offline backup (my preference).
d) Simple compatibility. want to send files quickly and easily? Don't rip out that OS laden stick; shut down & remove the hopefully bay mounted HDD, shove it in the other pc connected and let them grab the files directly from within their own system.
No shit windows file transfer speeds, no shit windows networking management to worry about, & you should have a backup anyways let alone your necessary install pretty much instantly able to be loaded to your NVMe drive which you totally did before removing the drive right?
I have all 3 and fact isyour not going to find much use for an SSD in between choice; and once you have that M2 3ghz plus speed your not going to hand that badboy back.
I'd recommend at least a 500gb one with a 100gb partition for OS 400GB for games.
I mean I'm running a 1tb M2 NVMe and with modern games and my GOG library I managed to fill it up in like 1 day of installs, so you can definitely fill it.
The thing is if your not going 2tb which arguably the price at the moment is for 'early adopters' for such a thing (read exorbitant); you are probably not going to use it as your everyday drive.
Especially with a small 500gb M.2 NVMe it means you are going to swap things in and out of it on a niegh constant basis, which probably isn't too good for the memory; plus if you have to delete a few folders and copy and paste a pre-install folder in then obviously your not using that speed properly.
Not saying you can't curate it, just that it could be a pain in the arse that also wears your expensive piece of technology.
You will however want a spinning rust drive for a number of good reasons.
a) Large storage (especially if you run the drive compressed)
b) Archival. Slow sometimes isn't a noticeable factor for example with standard bit rate DVD movies I mean I can't tell you the last time i even watched a 4k movie from any source lately and i run 4k natively.
c) Security. It's easier to have data security when you can simply rewrite the bits on a HDD (something that is *iffy on an SSD); and second to this backing up data should always be a priority and currently SSD's are about 4x the cost per GB which means a 2tb SSD equates to having 2x4tb HDD's which you can either raid or keep one as an offline backup (my preference).
d) Simple compatibility. want to send files quickly and easily? Don't rip out that OS laden stick; shut down & remove the hopefully bay mounted HDD, shove it in the other pc connected and let them grab the files directly from within their own system.
No shit windows file transfer speeds, no shit windows networking management to worry about, & you should have a backup anyways let alone your necessary install pretty much instantly able to be loaded to your NVMe drive which you totally did before removing the drive right?
I have all 3 and fact isyour not going to find much use for an SSD in between choice; and once you have that M2 3ghz plus speed your not going to hand that badboy back.
lukaszthegreat
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Registered: Sep 2008
From Norfolk Island
Posted June 29, 2019
I'd recommend at least a 500gb one with a 100gb partition for OS 400GB for games.
I mean I'm running a 1tb M2 NVMe and with modern games and my GOG library I managed to fill it up in like 1 day of installs, so you can definitely fill it.
The thing is if your not going 2tb which arguably the price at the moment is for 'early adopters' for such a thing (read exorbitant); you are probably not going to use it as your everyday drive.
Especially with a small 500gb M.2 NVMe it means you are going to swap things in and out of it on a niegh constant basis, which probably isn't too good for the memory; plus if you have to delete a few folders and copy and paste a pre-install folder in then obviously your not using that speed properly.
Not saying you can't curate it, just that it could be a pain in the arse that also wears your expensive piece of technology.
You will however want a spinning rust drive for a number of good reasons.
a) Large storage (especially if you run the drive compressed)
b) Archival. Slow sometimes isn't a noticeable factor for example with standard bit rate DVD movies I mean I can't tell you the last time i even watched a 4k movie from any source lately and i run 4k natively.
c) Security. It's easier to have data security when you can simply rewrite the bits on a HDD (something that is *iffy on an SSD); and second to this backing up data should always be a priority and currently SSD's are about 4x the cost per GB which means a 2tb SSD equates to having 2x4tb HDD's which you can either raid or keep one as an offline backup (my preference).
d) Simple compatibility. want to send files quickly and easily? Don't rip out that OS laden stick; shut down & remove the hopefully bay mounted HDD, shove it in the other pc connected and let them grab the files directly from within their own system.
No shit windows file transfer speeds, no shit windows networking management to worry about, & you should have a backup anyways let alone your necessary install pretty much instantly able to be loaded to your NVMe drive which you totally did before removing the drive right?
I have all 3 and fact isyour not going to find much use for an SSD in between choice; and once you have that M2 3ghz plus speed your not going to hand that badboy back.
illiousintahl
New User
Registered: Apr 2010
From Australia
Posted June 29, 2019
I'd recommend at least a 500gb one with a 100gb partition for OS 400GB for games.
I mean I'm running a 1tb M2 NVMe and with modern games and my GOG library I managed to fill it up in like 1 day of installs, so you can definitely fill it.
The thing is if your not going 2tb which arguably the price at the moment is for 'early adopters' for such a thing (read exorbitant); you are probably not going to use it as your everyday drive.
Especially with a small 500gb M.2 NVMe it means you are going to swap things in and out of it on a niegh constant basis, which probably isn't too good for the memory; plus if you have to delete a few folders and copy and paste a pre-install folder in then obviously your not using that speed properly.
Not saying you can't curate it, just that it could be a pain in the arse that also wears your expensive piece of technology.
You will however want a spinning rust drive for a number of good reasons.
a) Large storage (especially if you run the drive compressed)
b) Archival. Slow sometimes isn't a noticeable factor for example with standard bit rate DVD movies I mean I can't tell you the last time i even watched a 4k movie from any source lately and i run 4k natively.
c) Security. It's easier to have data security when you can simply rewrite the bits on a HDD (something that is *iffy on an SSD); and second to this backing up data should always be a priority and currently SSD's are about 4x the cost per GB which means a 2tb SSD equates to having 2x4tb HDD's which you can either raid or keep one as an offline backup (my preference).
d) Simple compatibility. want to send files quickly and easily? Don't rip out that OS laden stick; shut down & remove the hopefully bay mounted HDD, shove it in the other pc connected and let them grab the files directly from within their own system.
No shit windows file transfer speeds, no shit windows networking management to worry about, & you should have a backup anyways let alone your necessary install pretty much instantly able to be loaded to your NVMe drive which you totally did before removing the drive right?
I have all 3 and fact isyour not going to find much use for an SSD in between choice; and once you have that M2 3ghz plus speed your not going to hand that badboy back.
Tauto
TRUMP'S THE MAN!!!!!! 2020 WINNER!!!!!
Registered: Jul 2015
From Australia
Cavalary
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Registered: May 2011
From Romania
Posted June 29, 2019
[...]
Especially with a small 500gb M.2 NVMe it means you are going to swap things in and out of it on a niegh constant basis, which probably isn't too good for the memory; plus if you have to delete a few folders and copy and paste a pre-install folder in then obviously your not using that speed properly.
Total amount of space used on mine, excluding backups, is currently 407 Gb. 255 Gb of that are GOG game kits.
lukaszthegreat
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Registered: Sep 2008
From Norfolk Island
Posted July 18, 2019
How's your new pc tauto?
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Posted July 22, 2019
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First off, nice thread idea.
As for me: SSDs are quicker to fail due to only allowing so many overwrites, and are more expensive, but both problems have been improved over time.
If I had to choose i'd get a regular(but fast) HDD with SSD-like cache(hybrid drives) and maybe a smaller SSD for modern games and a third hybrid drive for anything else.
Tauto: Yeah,that is okay also nut the concerns I have........They say to put all programs on SSD and yet this is a concern because for instance virus controller is updating each time pc is turned on as well as Win10 and any other programs.I don't think that SSD should be written on all the time by programs and sooner or later it will stuff up. 
Braggadar: Which is why you backup the image from time to time to mass storage. When the SSD fails replace it. Good if you have the money(SSDs cost more to replace)...not so much for poorer folk.
Also you need somewhere to back all that data up...which is usually another HDD.
Ryan333: The most cost-effective setup is a hybrid drive solution. Use at least a 256GB SSD to hold the operating system, applications and any high-performance games. Then have a 1TB+ conventional hard disk for all your documents, pictures, movies and other data, along with any older games which may not benefit from the higher disk access speeds. With some games being around 50GB a 256GB SSD for OS/games is not good anymore....also for hoarders a 1TB backup drive is also less than ideal.
lukaszthegreat: My laptop starts in 5 seconds.
My desktop goes to loading screen faster than monitor turns on, within 30 seconds or so.
It is a must in new pc.I get that some dislike waiting but was 1 minute really that long to wait for a system to boot? Some are getting lazier and lazier these days, it seems.
(Yes I know some need that extra time saved, and not all are lazy.....they are ok, imo)
As for me: SSDs are quicker to fail due to only allowing so many overwrites, and are more expensive, but both problems have been improved over time.
If I had to choose i'd get a regular(but fast) HDD with SSD-like cache(hybrid drives) and maybe a smaller SSD for modern games and a third hybrid drive for anything else.
Also you need somewhere to back all that data up...which is usually another HDD.
My desktop goes to loading screen faster than monitor turns on, within 30 seconds or so.
It is a must in new pc.
(Yes I know some need that extra time saved, and not all are lazy.....they are ok, imo)
Post edited July 22, 2019 by GameRager
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Get 512 or more if you play modern titles....as I told someone above in a prior reply that isn't enough if it's used for gaming with today's modern games needing 50+ GB.
Post edited July 22, 2019 by GameRager