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I recently tried to play M&M9 but its broken in W10. I know W10 is new, so I can't complain too much...but how are other people doing with W10 and games on GOG?? Are they working correctly??

I would just prefer they tell us if a game is not compatible with W10 yet, rather than pretend it is and hope it works for us.
yet another countless w10 topic ...
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shiffd: I recently tried to play M&M9 but its broken in W10. I know W10 is new, so I can't complain too much...but how are other people doing with W10 and games on GOG?? Are they working correctly??

I would just prefer they tell us if a game is not compatible with W10 yet, rather than pretend it is and hope it works for us.
M&M 9 is MIGHT AND MAGIC® 9? If yes it says on the store page that it only works with Windows XP, Vista and 7.

Some advice from me: You can sort for Windows 10 games.
I'll let the attachment speak for itself :-)
Attachments:
mm9.jpg (337 Kb)
Keep Win7 for games and use dual-boot if you want to be a beta tester for 10 :)
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shiffd: I would just prefer they tell us if a game is not compatible with W10 yet, rather than pretend it is and hope it works for us.
As others have pointed out, they do tell you, right on the game card. You just haven't bothered to check.

What did you expect? That GOG send you an email for every game you own that hasn't yet passed Win10 compatibility checks?
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shiffd: I recently tried to play M&M9 but its broken in W10. I know W10 is new, so I can't complain too much...but how are other people doing with W10 and games on GOG?? Are they working correctly??

I would just prefer they tell us if a game is not compatible with W10 yet, rather than pretend it is and hope it works for us.
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Ritualisto: M&M 9 is MIGHT AND MAGIC® 9? If yes it says on the store page that it only works with Windows XP, Vista and 7.

Some advice from me: You can sort for Windows 10 games.
Thank you for the reply that once made, did not require some of the other replies that were made (I think MODs should delete such troll posts where people make comments which repeat information and they add snarkiness...)

I only look at my games in the library, which only said 'windows' when I clicked on it in the library. It did not specify WHAT windows version it was or was not compatible with in the library. Naturally once I own a game I did not think to look at its store page...I already own it!

The sorting advice is very good. Thank you!!!

@GOG staff (if anyone saw this) add to the library when I click on the game, instead of just 'windows' some note or indication of WHICH windows versions the download is for, not just 'windows' since its not a download for any windows, just some of them.

That would have saved me some trouble.

Again thank you for the clarification.
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shiffd: I would just prefer they tell us if a game is not compatible with W10 yet, rather than pretend it is and hope it works for us.
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Wishbone: As others have pointed out, they do tell you, right on the game card. You just haven't bothered to check.

What did you expect? That GOG send you an email for every game you own that hasn't yet passed Win10 compatibility checks?
In the library it does not clearly indicate compatibility with windows 10 or not. It just says OS:WINDOWS and then there is a download link. I only look at library, I did not think to have to sort it, I thought by clicking on a game it should show me if there is a downloader for my OS or not, if not, then that would mean the game has no compatible version (offered on GOG anyway) for my OS. SInce it just said "WINDOWS" then I thought that meant they were saying it works with any windows. The could improve this simply- add a () after the OS:WIndows...like (XP,7) or (10) etc. to tell you which OS you need. Probably they should do the same for MAC for games that work with it instead of OSX, OSX (6, 7, 8) etc.

Yes I expect GOG to be clear about what OSs its games work with or not. This is a critical piece of information. IF they can not get the majority of their library to work with W10 they will lose a lot of potential customers.

The WHOLE POINT of this site is to make old games work on modern machines. If you want to play DRM-free old games on old machines and dual-booted old-school OSs...YOU DONT NEED TO PAY FOR THEM!!!!

I already own 10 or 20 games I bought on GOG. I bought these games long ago, before even XP some of them. I bought them on GOG for the DOXBOX etc. that is built in, instead of trying to build it my own or firing up an old machine etc. It's convenience. I have additional games that I own hard-copies but consider buying GOG version if they make it compatible.

For many of us, that is all we pay them to do. They have over a hundred titles you can get free versions of, some even with emulation/emulator compatibility (lots of free emulators out there) that are 100% legal due to age of the programs etc. Also, games like BG etc. need massive modding but they don't directly support modding or host mods, which they should. At-least provide links from the library. I mean seriously, why would we pay them if they don't make the games work on our machines.
Post edited September 08, 2015 by shiffd
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shiffd: snip
Actually, I tried it out on my system. Had a few graphical glitches between menus and the game (the colors kinda went CGA, and had some pausing blackness) but through a bit of going to desktop and clicking the game icon on the toolbar to go back, the game appeared to be playable on my system. Very glitchy with the transitions, enough I wouldn't call it compatible, but once I was in the game proper, it was apparently working fine. And this is for a game not even approved for Win 8...

As to your point about 100% legal games available with emulation though, you are dead wrong. Copyright laws extend far longer than any video game ever made. There is no such thing as games made legal due to their age. That is all piracy. Only games where the rights holders specifically relinquish those rights are 100% legal.
Post edited September 08, 2015 by RWarehall
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Ganni1987: I'll let the attachment speak for itself :-)
That is not the library page.
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swatkat: Keep Win7 for games and use dual-boot if you want to be a beta tester for 10 :)
I had W8.1
I was happy with XP except stupid microsoft stopped supporting it so I don't want it on a machine that connects to net/didn't put it on my new machine (old machine collecting dust...could fire it up and use a USB to put the game on it and play...I did that with some others when I was on a mac and they weren't mac compatible...)

Basically I got 3 (technically 4, but the 4th is deep in a closet and not worth digging out)
XP desktop, semi-retired...pain/hassle to get games on it through USB port...well not that hard but I am lazy and its an older machine tha I just don't use
MACbook....nothing is compatible on it (well dang near nothing)
W8.1-upgrade to 10 which IS way better than 8.1 (8.1 is not compatible with its own drivers LOL...W10 seems to be better but that aint saying MUCH!!!!!)
The W10 machine is my main PC which I am using for everything now. The Macbook is just not compatible with soooo much and I found it to be a REAL pain to work with updating it and getting stuff skinned to work on it.

I am having some issues, obviously, on compatibility with W10 as well.

I think the moral of the story is the software giants are trying to crush old games, free software developers etc. etc. by constantly rehashing their OSs, with IMO, the goal of making anything older and or developed free to stop working.

I think their goal is through windows store and mac store to rip you off over and over and over for rehashes of the most basic software to do anything everything you could ever want to do. Take pictures? buy an app. WRite a memo, by an app. Write a document, buy an app, watch a movie buy an app, play a game, buy a new game only. The OS they will probably start making free. Rather than charge you a giant pile of money then give you everything you ever wanted, they are gonna offer 'free' OS which is constantly 'updated' so that it is not compatible wiht anything you already own and you ahve to buy a new app every year to do even the most basic things.

None of that is GOG.com's fault. But they are jsut the people that windows and Mac are fighting against. Another way to put it is this

OS=DRM (nowadays)
Its sad, but its the truth IMO.
Post edited September 08, 2015 by shiffd
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shiffd: snip
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RWarehall: Actually, I tried it out on my system. Had a few graphical glitches between menus and the game (the colors kinda went CGA, and had some pausing blackness) but through a bit of going to desktop and clicking the game icon on the toolbar to go back, the game appeared to be playable on my system. Very glitchy with the transitions, enough I wouldn't call it compatible, but once I was in the game proper, it was apparently working fine. And this is for a game not even approved for Win 8...

As to your point about 100% legal games available with emulation though, you are dead wrong. Copyright laws extend far longer than any video game ever made. There is no such thing as games made legal due to their age. That is all piracy. Only games where the rights holders specifically relinquish those rights are 100% legal.
relinquished rights and owning the original. LIke I said, I own dozens of games on GOG, and I own hundreds of games from my long years of playing. IF i have a hard copy of basically every RPG I ever heard of and wanted, then I can emulate or download copies of said games till I am blue in the face. Emulations of games you already own is legal.
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shiffd: snip
So, did you have any luck when you tried the game? What was broken? Like I said, I tried it and it was a bit glitchy, but I was able to get through those glitches.
10! 10 windows! Ha ha ha ha!
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shiffd: Yes I expect GOG to be clear about what OSs its games work with or not. This is a critical piece of information. IF they can not get the majority of their library to work with W10 they will lose a lot of potential customers.

The WHOLE POINT of this site is to make old games work on modern machines. If you want to play DRM-free old games on old machines and dual-booted old-school OSs...YOU DONT NEED TO PAY FOR THEM!!!!
Well I think that's why they're trying to push the focus on all games being DRM-free / "like Steam but optional", rather than Good Old Games that run on modern machines. There's only so much they can legally do to make the non-DOS games compatible, aside from really investing a lot of time and money, and diving into whatever source code they can (which I doubt will happen), or finding some way to make a Windows 98 emulator with Microsoft's legal consent (which would also be cool but doubt will happen too, of course).

I imagine there'll come a point where most of the non-DOS '90s/early 2000s games won't run on the latest OS (several games aren't supported past Vista, like Interstate '76), so it will be interesting to see if they can finally make their attempt at "rebranding" (the focus being on DRM-free/optional client rather than old games working on modern machines) stick.

Or maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. :P
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shiffd: Yes I expect GOG to be clear about what OSs its games work with or not. This is a critical piece of information. IF they can not get the majority of their library to work with W10 they will lose a lot of potential customers.

The WHOLE POINT of this site is to make old games work on modern machines. If you want to play DRM-free old games on old machines and dual-booted old-school OSs...YOU DONT NEED TO PAY FOR THEM!!!!
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tfishell: Well I think that's why they're trying to push the focus on all games being DRM-free / "like Steam but optional", rather than Good Old Games that run on modern machines. There's only so much they can legally do to make the non-DOS games compatible, aside from really investing a lot of time and money, and diving into whatever source code they can (which I doubt will happen), or finding some way to make a Windows 98 emulator with Microsoft's legal consent (which would also be cool but doubt will happen too, of course).

I imagine there'll come a point where most of the non-DOS '90s/early 2000s games won't run on the latest OS (several games aren't supported past Vista, like Interstate '76), so it will be interesting to see if they can finally make their attempt at "rebranding" (the focus being on DRM-free/optional client rather than old games working on modern machines) stick.

Or maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. :P
Windows/mac is not GOG's fault.
I really think the powers that be are working against them.
Still I would like to see them keep up the good fight. emulating an entire OS might be a way to go. That is more or less what Dosbox does on a very small scale.

I have no issue with GOG.com going in a 'DRM free modern games direction'....in this case though GOG.com would die. The company/guys behind the screen might take their success and earned capital in another direction, but if none of these games in my library work on a modern machine...that would suck!!!

indie games and retro games are interesting...hard to say how interested I would be in them.

How about GOG going in a direction like with the EEs (they are releasing them)...
since they have been pretty good at acquiring the rights to distribute old games, why not acquire development rights to content?
The way that hollywood remakes old movies for a modern audience...some of these old games could be remade in new engines to render on modern machines with better graphics, and all the modern GUI user friendliness.

I hate it when stuff that doesn't need to be remade or made at all, is marketed just because people want to make money. I hate 99% of all new games because the makers and the games have no passion, they are just formulaic copies of other games with big marketing behind them. LIke Ubisoft...they make about 9 trash titles for every good 1 and they overcharge for everything...not to mention they still release everything bugged all to hell.

Even if its trouble to get GOG games to work on modern machines...its about the same difference as a new ubisoft game in terms of glitchiness and likiliness to just crash etc.... Oh there is one big difference- GOG games cost about 1/10th as much!!!
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shiffd: Thank you for the reply that once made, did not require some of the other replies that were made (I think MODs should delete such troll posts where people make comments which repeat information and they add snarkiness...)
Yeah, I think so too. Like deleting the OP where it snarkily states that GOG pretends all its games are Win10 compatible, which is quite clearly trolling.