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nightcraw1er.488: ...
How many games have you bought while engaging in your "boycott" of GoG?
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ChristophWr: So obviously a few don’t like the galaxy client.In my opinion a launcher should always be optional and that’s what galaxy is
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: That statement is directly contradicted & undermined & disproven by your other statement in your same OP there, which correctly states that Galaxy acts as a DRM-gate for Cyberpunk 2077 content.

That means that Galaxy is actually not optional for people who want to experience 100% of the content of the game which they paid for.
It's OK Ancient. We know you absolutely despise GoG, which is why you constantly attack them rather than actually being constructive.
Post edited February 14, 2022 by Krogan32
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Wheezyyyy: It’s actually much more easier to see them now and it also easier to get them
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nightcraw1er.488: Yes, it’s easier to see them now as GOG made it as hard as possible to find the offline installers. As soon as numbers knowing about offline installers drop far enough, they will disappear.
Na they will never disappear and if they are easier to find and get now why should they?doesn’t make sense.If they would drop them they would get boycotted for sure.They also have to fix their reputation after the cyberpunk debacle
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ChristophWr: You can still install all the offline installers without the galaxy client i already did that and i don’t see any sign that offline installers aren’t the focus.I did download them in the past via the homepage and it’s much better and easier now
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nightcraw1er.488: Really you can install gwent?
Repeat after me: GWENT is a PvP only game, which means it requires an internet connection to play it, which Galaxy serves as that method. I know, I know, you fake boycotters continually have a difficult time of getting that fact, which is why you keep bringing out that debunked talking point as an attack against GoG.

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nightcraw1er.488: Or cyberpunk with all content?
Online content requires an online connection.

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nightcraw1er.488: And does the installers not contain galaxy dll files? It’s “easier” for you as now files are hidden away, deliberately.
<Plays X-Files theme song> Seriously, you fake boycotters continually jump face first into these conspiracy theories.
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mad_men_only: People that don't use Galaxy expect that the offline installers are kept up to date, with some semblance of parity, so you're way off the mark. We don't even get changelogs anymore.
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Wheezyyyy: You like to downvote like a little child ay.You are wrong we get changelogs and it very easy to check them
He's a blatantly obvious alt account. See his profile: Zero games bought with a days old account.
Post edited February 14, 2022 by Krogan32
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I actually love Gwen’s but it would be nice if there would be an offline way to play against bots….at least in my opinion
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ChristophWr: I actually love Gwen’s but it would be nice if there would be an offline way to play against bots….at least in my opinion
There's an offline version for sale.
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ChristophWr: I actually love Gwen’s but it would be nice if there would be an offline way to play against bots….at least in my opinion
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mad_men_only: There's an offline version for sale.
Seriously?Where?
Edit:You probably mean thronebracker but i meant the standard gwent
Post edited February 14, 2022 by ChristophWr
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mad_men_only: There's an offline version for sale.
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ChristophWr: Seriously?Where?
Edit:You probably mean thronebracker but i meant the standard gwent
Not free, but another big sale in 2 months or so. Can you wait that long? lol
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Sure i can but i own all the sp card games.The gwent game is online only
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ChristophWr: Sure i can but i own all the sp card games.The gwent game is online only
Be so easy to add single player to GWENT. Guess they're afraid they'd lose money.
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nightcraw1er.488: Yes, it’s easier to see them now as GOG made it as hard as possible to find the offline installers. As soon as numbers knowing about offline installers drop far enough, they will disappear.
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Wheezyyyy: Na they will never disappear and if they are easier to find and get now why should they?doesn’t make sense.If they would drop them they would get boycotted for sure.They also have to fix their reputation after the cyberpunk debacle
Why would publishers run several different builds for a game just to attract minor sales. GOG is a small platform to start with, behind steam and epic by a long way. Their success so far has been in being different to other stores. We are already seeing publishers who do not want to build with galaxy, steam, epic etc. backends as it’s too much work, why would they put extra effort in for a fraction of the smallest return? Much the same as the deal with epic, why would epic put the effort in to create a proper drm build of its games when users can already buy them through galaxy. Lots of these smaller parts combine to a bigger whole. It may not happen this or next, but eventually. I am not even sure it’s possible to survive without going that way anymore, I have seen so many stores of the years go this way.
As for the boycott that is to try and push change that’s been pending for many years now (since around the time of galaxy release). Unfortunately the years go by, the problems stack up, not even so much as acknowledgement of them. So it’s got the stage of either do something now or you ain’t getting anymore money.
As for cyberpunk, we’ll that’s CDPr and a different matter. GOG being brought by someone else could be an option there, otherwise CDPrOnline will move ahead full force and trample this store in its wake.
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Because Steam is better. Steam supports windows 7.
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KasperHviid: At one point, GOG used malware tactics and stealth-installed Galaxy along with each and every game installer. You were only able to opt out if if you remembered to click the Options button during install. (A button which traditionally offer minor choices, such as install directory or if you want an icon on the desktop, not major decisions like if you want to install a launcher)

They only stopped this practice because the forum users raised a shitstorm.

Things like this don't really win people over. There has also been some instances where games were broken or lacking features when they were played outside galaxy, or their installers were outdated. Also, if you look at the download page for your games, their design heavily try to discurage people from downloading the normal install files. And as nice as archivements and multiplayer are, this part of the games are effectively DRM-protected.

That said, I think a launcher offers some good features, letting you quickly and effortlessly install and uninstall games, and backing up your saves. I just don't like Galaxy constantly seem to nudge GOG away from its DRM-free roots.
What upsets me about this is that I distinctly recall people, the very forum users here, asking for a Client, which baffled me back then, and now they got what they wanted and now I'm seeing more people coming out of the woodwork hating on the GOG Client.
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It's nice to have the offline installers there as an option, but I'll never go back to actually using them, way too much busywork.
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ChristophWr: ...
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Christophlemale: ...
GOG bundling offline installers with Galaxy files, May 2017:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/offline_installers_with_an_option_to_install_gog_galaxy/page1

Outdated offline installers:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/games_that_gog_has_left_the_offline_installers_outdated_for/page1

Inappropriate language aside, a take on GOG installers:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/why_gog_offline_installers_suck/page1

Back in March of 2020:
GoG wants to get rid of the Downloader, but many people here use it and love it. So please show GoG that we need it still by voting here for keeping the Downloader and keeping it up to date.
2167 people voted for this, they were all ignored:
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/keep_the_gog_downloader_and_keep_it_up_to_date

What did GOG do?
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/we_say_goodbye_to_gog_downloader/post1
Pay attention to the wording, especially the bolded parts:

After announcing that we’re ceasing the active development for GOG Downloader 6 years ago, the time has come to disable it. We put a lot of work into making GOG.COM an up-to-date place for gamers.Supporting GOG Downloader, which became an obsolete tool some time ago, simply does not go hand in hand with the goal we mentioned above.
In a week from now, we will deactivate GOG Downloader entirely, and it won’t be possible to download any files with it. As of the 17th of March, there will be two methods of downloading games from GOG.COM – via the browser or with the GOG GALAXY app. For more information on how to download your games and digital goodies go here.
GOG taking an option from the user was a mistake in my opinion.
Let us go back in time to a PSA posted by skeletonbow on October 05, 2016. Part of it reads:

Lately I've noticed some signs that GOGdownloader usability is declining for folks, such as dead GOGdownloader links becoming more and more common, and GOG technical support responding to support requests to fix downloader links with autoresponder mails telling you to use GOG Galaxy instead. This suggested to me that the writing is on the wall, that GOGdownloader is being phased out and that they are very likely to just drop support entirely in the not distant future and just completely remove GOGdownloader links.

We all know that this would happen sooner or later some day as GOG announced over 2 years ago that GOGdownloader was officially being replaced by Galaxy, and that GOGdownloader was officially no longer supported in terms of receiving new software features or bug updates, but that they would keep the links working for some time to come, but without any specific end of life date.
What does that tell you and why would GOG keep a tool deprecated for 6 years in the first place? After 6 years they decide to disable it in order to make way for "GALAXY". Notice the emphasis on Galaxy. I could go on detail about marketing tactics, but that's a tale for another time.

Back to GOG dropping support for the Downloader, this is one of the responses of the community:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/we_do_not_want_say_goodbye_to_gog_downloader/page1
Only one blue (Ashleee) appeared in the thread saying this:

DRM-FREE policy will always be our core value so for sure the offline installers won't be gone
Notice the reactions and how there is no further comment from Ashleee.
Fast forward a few years and GOG put
this on their store. Why would GOG, a promoter of DRM-free, do such a thing? The response of the community was so vehement that they had to take the game down and issue a public apology. What happens when a core value becomes tainted?

Something else that bothers me (check the attachment).
It's not the fact that I have to click in order to expand a menu, but the fact that Galaxy takes precedence over the offline installers.

And since there's been talk about parity and changelogs...
As pointed by Kerebron in this comment, GOG should provide checksums in order to verify downloads. Because if you want to do that right now, you have to go with a
workaround.

I'll take the downvote and I hope it'll make you feel like you accomplished something today.
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Post edited February 14, 2022 by patrikc
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If GOG was showing it's A game in every area of the website and store, while also supporting Galaxy, fewer people would hate it. The problem is this is not the case at all.

GOG website and forum have been agonizing for years while they put all the effort on the client. Their most faithful customers are people who use this store to AVOID a client in the first place.

So, pretty much, the people who actually pay the bills with their purchases are using a deprecated website while people who don't necessarily buy on GOG but want a unified client use Galaxy.

Some of the problems with the website are:

- Outdated game pages that don't reflect game updates. If a game launches with controller support and then gets it in a later update, the GOG gamepage doesn't reflect this.

- Outdated game library that features broken sorting options.

- Review system that doesn't allow edits, deletion or pretty much anything other than writing a review and never touching it again afterwards.

- Featureless forum that hasn't been updated in years and is just annoying to use, leading to less community activity than would be possible in a more welcoming environment.

- The GOG support, which used to be great and one of the big reasons to use GOG instead of Steam, pretty much doesn't exist anymore.

They updated the store browser less then a year ago, to give some improvement to the sorting options. Things did improved a bit in that regard. Strangely, these improvements to the sorting of the store did not extend to the customer game library. I can sort GOG games by oldest to newest in the store and correctly see the oldest games first, but if I do that in my game library it shows me Ion Fury and Pathfinder Kingmaker in the beginning of the list, as if they were older than Ultima and King's Quest. For a store that caters to old school gamers, this is not good.

One can only hope more updates to the website are on the way. Unfortunately, the development of Galaxy has been done in DETRIMENT of the rest of the website.
Post edited February 14, 2022 by samuraigaiden