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Gee, it's almost like some of us have been screaming about this from Day One of Galaxy.
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DreamedArtist: I noticed something, why are there no GOG staff or anyone higher up coming in here to clear stuff up or tells us about what they had in mind doing this?

Here it's dead silent besides the response of YES you have to use Galaxy to download the game pre launch.
My theory is:

- The bosses told the lower level members of the company not to say anything about controversial issues like this.

- In the past, that didn't happen, because GOG wasn't indulging in as many controversial issues.

- The bosses realize that if the GOG employees spoke about the matter in a way that tried to spin-doctor it in a positive light with PR-speak-type BS, then GOG customers would see right through that crap and call it out for what it is. So speaking would just further damage GOG's reputation rather than do anything to help make things better.

Especially since the only real way to make things like this better would be for: a) GOG publicly to apologize for having done it in the first place and also b) to patch the game to remove the DRM-gate off of the content (and likewise also with other games that have the same thing, i.e. No Man's Sky).

But it seems like the bosses at GOG don't want to do that. And without them having any desire to do that, then there's nothing they could possibly say that would make this stuff okay with GOG's customers...which is a point that the bosses will be well-aware of.

Hence, they probably figure it's better to say nothing since there is no upside to them for allowing GOG to make statements about this, unless they intend to change course, which they apparently don't.
Post edited December 09, 2020 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
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DreamedArtist: I noticed something, why are there no GOG staff or anyone higher up coming in here to clear stuff up or tells us about what they had in mind doing this? Seems like they just want Users to shout into a void of nothing and burn themselves out. Very odd. I remember the Witcher 3 launch they where active all over the place and talked with users. Here it's dead silent besides the response of YES you have to use Galaxy to download the game pre launch.
You mean unlike the other controversies of those recent years where they answered "immediately" (i.e. days or sometime weeks after). Gog communication issues is not something new, since the dumb twitter controversies they barely interact with the forum apart from mods closing threads from time to time. Also it has only be what, two or three days, not to mention that this week they have a major release of their first big game since Witcher 3 so I guess everybody at Gog and CDPR are probably very busy at the moment and don't really spend time on the forum.
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I can tolerate that you have to activate certain goodies through Galaxy if it's then added as an offline downloader but otherwise it's total b/s.

I expect updates to be simultaneous on Galaxy and the offline installers and I expect ALL content to be added to the offline installer. If Galaxy becomes mandatory for certain content or if GOG stops updating the offline installers on certain games (which I've seen other people complain about) then I might as well stop buying games through here, and I say that as someone who owns >400 games on GOG.
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Every single person who buys this game on every platform just has to link their account to get the cool stuff. It's incentivizing you to make an account at Gog.

On top of that, what's the problem it's bonus stuff like getting a special gun at GameStop or a new car at Best buy. You don't want to do it don't get it. If you want the stuff type in your creds and unlock it. Who knows maybe all Gog editions will have it unlocked free, the point is you don't know.

It's not DRM it's not gatekeeping it's giving you a choice, you don't have to put your account in the game to unlock it. The entire thing can be played offline You're making a choice to be upset about this. Until we know what happens in 12 hours you are not allowed to be upset because we don't have all the information.

Nobody knows what the files are going to look like for us. Everyone's getting mad without any reason to at this point. Wait 12 hours and then get upset after you verify everything.
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Mjauv: I can tolerate that you have to activate certain goodies through Galaxy if it's then added as an offline downloader but otherwise it's total b/s.

I expect updates to be simultaneous on Galaxy and the offline installers and I expect ALL content to be added to the offline installer. If Galaxy becomes mandatory for certain content or if GOG stops updating the offline installers on certain games (which I've seen other people complain about) then I might as well stop buying games through here, and I say that as someone who owns >400 games on GOG.
I would take it one step further and say that we should not tolerate any mandatory use of Galaxy. I don't have 400 games on GOG, but with this going the way at is, I am unlikely to have any more games in GOG at this point.
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Starkrun: Every single person who buys this game on every platform just has to link their account to get the cool stuff. It's incentivizing you to make an account at Gog.

On top of that, what's the problem it's bonus stuff like getting a special gun at GameStop or a new car at Best buy. You don't want to do it don't get it. If you want the stuff type in your creds and unlock it. Who knows maybe all Gog editions will have it unlocked free, the point is you don't know.

It's not DRM it's not gatekeeping it's giving you a choice, you don't have to put your account in the game to unlock it. The entire thing can be played offline You're making a choice to be upset about this. Until we know what happens in 12 hours you are not allowed to be upset because we don't have all the information.

Nobody knows what the files are going to look like for us. Everyone's getting mad without any reason to at this point. Wait 12 hours and then get upset after you verify everything.
I already HAVE an account at GOG. It's called GOG.com account - why must I then use the OPTIONAL Galaxy client to get the same access (for which I paid the SAME amount of money)?
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midrand: I already HAVE an account at GOG. It's called GOG.com account - why must I then use the OPTIONAL Galaxy client to get the same access (for which I paid the SAME amount of money)?
you.... don't? everyone that owns the game can get the fancy clothes on all platforms. They never said use galaxy.. unless you mean pre-loading which no one has EVER in the history of video games allowed outside of a controlled system.

Even the review copies had Denuvo V9 on them to prevent leaks. The game releases in around 12 hours, calm down and get mad after that point, after you have tested the offline installers and witnessed with your own eyes the process.
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midrand: I already HAVE an account at GOG. It's called GOG.com account - why must I then use the OPTIONAL Galaxy client to get the same access (for which I paid the SAME amount of money)?
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Starkrun: you.... don't? everyone that owns the game can get the fancy clothes on all platforms. They never said use galaxy.. unless you mean pre-loading which no one has EVER in the history of video games allowed outside of a controlled system.

Even the review copies had Denuvo V9 on them to prevent leaks. The game releases in around 12 hours, calm down and get mad after that point, after you have tested the offline installers and witnessed with your own eyes the process.
Ahem... lets start again. Back in 2015 CDPR released Witcher 3 on GOG.com. It allowed offline installer users to PRELOAD the offline installers. On the release day, you downloaded the missing executable and some further missing data which enabled the game to be playable. All without using Galaxy.

Now don't tell me that this was possible in 2015 but somehow it is not in 2020.
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midrand: I already HAVE an account at GOG. It's called GOG.com account - why must I then use the OPTIONAL Galaxy client to get the same access (for which I paid the SAME amount of money)?
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Starkrun: you.... don't? everyone that owns the game can get the fancy clothes on all platforms. They never said use galaxy..
This is what a blue said on another thread:
"MY REWARDS requires connecting to your GOG account via GOG GALAXY."
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There are several separate issues here:

1. To access content that is already included in the game one has to go through some contrived "unlock" process.

2. GOG Galaxy was always supposed to stay optional yet customers are now being herded into using it with carrot-and-stick tactics.

3. Just like The Witcher 3's lack of DRM created a precedent by proving that a contemporary major game can become commercially succesful without it, this now creates a precedent too, just in the opposite direction, and the effect will be twofold:

(a) This paves the ground towards pervasive always-online DRM in future Cyberpunk 2077 DLCs.

(b) There will no longer be any urge for numerous other developers to fix their games that threat GOG customers as second-class citizens now that even GOG owner's in-house game joins the list.

(Reposted from CP2077 forum thread)
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Mjauv: I can tolerate that you have to activate certain goodies through Galaxy if it's then added as an offline downloader but otherwise it's total b/s.
If this content ends up getting an offline installer to go with the offline installer on release day (which other games' cosmetic content have done already in numerous instances, so it's clearly possible), I agree, and the concern is much less. My main issue is part of the game being DRMed. That Galaxy users are allowed to access something early is indeed a separate issue along the lines of customers who don't use the "optional" client being treated as less-than. Make no mistake, despite being separate it is also an issue well worth criticizing and highlighting, but I don't think it rises to the same amount of concern as the DRM-free-championing company who has the DRM-free store introducing DRM for their flagship game.

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midrand: I already HAVE an account at GOG. It's called GOG.com account - why must I then use the OPTIONAL Galaxy client to get the same access (for which I paid the SAME amount of money)?
Great question. Previously, the position from GOG seemed to be that GOG.com customers are different than customers buying DRMed games (like from Epic) through the new store app on Galaxy 2.0. Much effort was expended in the performance of mental gymnastics of how "GOG" doesn't sell DRM because GOG.com will remain DRM-free unlike the new store in the Galaxy app. Maybe they need to further segment the user base by specifying the difference even among "GOG.com" customers, since it is clear that there is a difference in what users with the client can access versus users without the client. I propose a GOG caste system.
Post edited December 09, 2020 by rjbuffchix
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ASnakeNeverDies: Maybe this is obvious to some, but it is not to me. Why would the files downloaded through the Galaxy client not be the same ones offered through the web browser?
I just saw your question.

My topic here is about certain content NOT being offered through the web browser offline installers. In my original post, I have it linked where GOG Staff says that there is cosmetic content that REQUIRES logging in to Galaxy, even once, in order to obtain.

If GOG/CDPR reconsiders their position and provides this cosmetic content in offline-installer form that users can get through the browser, not using Galaxy at all, then there is no problem and the topic would be resolved.
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midrand: I already HAVE an account at GOG. It's called GOG.com account - why must I then use the OPTIONAL Galaxy client to get the same access (for which I paid the SAME amount of money)?
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Starkrun: you.... don't? everyone that owns the game can get the fancy clothes on all platforms. They never said use galaxy..
Wrong. They explicitly say that you HAVE TO use Galaxy to get the Rewards DLC. And that is not only until release, they very explicitly say: the offline installer users will not get this DLC! Even if you bought the game here on GOG. You still have to register it through Galaxy to get access to the DLC.

Check the FAQ at the bottom of this page: https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/goodies
under "Is MY REWARDS also available on the local version of Cyberpunk..."

Hint: the reply is NO. "...the local version of Cyberpunk 2077 that you can download via GOG will not support MY REWARDS."
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VVNiels: I don't understand what everyone has against galaxy? You perfectly download the offline installers in galaxy.

Same with all the nagging about not being able to pre-load cyberpunk without galaxy. Isn't it logical that you can't do that without galaxy? I am pretty sure that starting from Thursday, you will be able to download Cypberpunk drm free without any problems.
I use Galaxy and I'll say I am 100% against this bullshit. I download all my installers as backups through gogrepo. But yes, I even like Galaxy. However I should not be forced to use it, nor should others who don't like it like I do.

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Mjauv: I can tolerate that you have to activate certain goodies through Galaxy if it's then added as an offline downloader but otherwise it's total b/s.

I expect updates to be simultaneous on Galaxy and the offline installers and I expect ALL content to be added to the offline installer. If Galaxy becomes mandatory for certain content or if GOG stops updating the offline installers on certain games (which I've seen other people complain about) then I might as well stop buying games through here, and I say that as someone who owns >400 games on GOG.
As someone with >700 games, I 100% agree. If they stop being DRM-Free, there is 0 reason to buy from here.
Post edited December 09, 2020 by paladin181
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DreamedArtist: I noticed something, why are there no GOG staff or anyone higher up coming in here to clear stuff up or tells us about what they had in mind doing this?
Now they only know the twitter language. The forum plebs' language, who helped them build this place, is long forgotten.