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dtgreene: Points of no return, where, after a certain point, you can't go back and explore the rest of the game to get things you missed.

One-time-only areas that you can't revisit. (Especially annoying when it's the final dungeon, like in TES: Arena (if I ever get that far.)
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GameRager: To be fair: points of no return mostly suck if they aren't marked as such or one has to find out about them when it's too late to stop them from happening. If one knows about them beforehand and can prevent them till they want to do them then they are ok(imo).
Even a point of no return that isn't a surprise can be bad. For example, in the original SaGa 3 (Final Fantasy Legend 3), around the midpoint of the game, there is a point where you have to travel into an alternate dimension (Pureland in the FFL3 translation), and once you do that, you can *never* go back. This means that any items that you didn't find before then, or store equipment you didn't buy before that point, or spells, can *never* be obtained later if you don't already have them. This issue is enough to make me sometimes not continue playing the game. (There's also the fact that you can't return to Floatland after clearing it.)

The DS remake mitigated this problem; you eventually get to return to the main world after you reach Talonberg. So, you're still stuck there for a while, but at least eventually get to return to get things you missed (and I believe this is required to get the new ending they added). (Also, it's now possible to revisit Floatland after clearing it.) Incidentally, if this game were to get another remake, one that is more faithful to the original (rather than the complete remodeling, including the removal of the level/XP system and the rework of how different races work), this is one of two features from the DS version that I would like to see ported over (the other being the ability to store items).

Interestingly enough, I have had a similar issue with Final Fantasy 6, where a certain event occurs that's functionally equivalent to an early (as in, half way or so) point of no return.
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GameRager: The dude made a comment that that is a high price for a chair a month ago, just to show how crazy it is to some.....no need to be upset or smug about it. :\

Now now....no need for insults.
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fr33kSh0w2012: Yeah that was what I was getting from the way he typed it!
It doesn't help one's case and just ends the conversation before it begins. If one wants to make their case they should be as civil as possible while also being critical of things they see as wrong or in need of change.

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dtgreene: Even a point of no return that isn't a surprise can be bad.
Not to me(or not as much). If I know such is coming it's loads better than not as I can prepare for such ahead of time.

Also: There are bad things in life......people need to learn to live with such and be happy with what they have. Just my two cents.
Post edited August 27, 2019 by GameRager
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ColJohnMatrix: Lol Sorry to hear you're poor, cheap, or whatever other psychological disorder/cognitive biases you have.
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fr33kSh0w2012: Aww... How cute ad hominem attacks again, No not poor or cheap no psychological disorders or cognitive biases at all I just know a RIP OFF when I see one you got conned Kid!

Have you heard of the Steelcase Leap look it up!

https://store.steelcase.com/seating/office-chairs/leap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqQjNYx-Eyw

Also even Mirra is not a bad seat, But steelcase is STILL BETTER!

http://johnmee.com/chair-review-aeron-vs-leap

Do your homework before shooting you god damn mouth of Justin!
Lol I'm a professional. I can afford it. You can't, as you've made abundantly clear. I also mentioned alternatives in my original post, which you seem to be unable to comprehend, unsurprisingly, choosing instead to get butthurt after cherry-picking your ridiculous non-argument. You call it ad hominems (hypocritically, no less); yet the facts bear out my assertions. So, go cry me a river. Chances are this won't be the only thing to upset you today. Try not to seethe.
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GameRager: The dude made a comment that that is a high price for a chair a month ago, just to show how crazy it is to some.....no need to be upset or smug about it. :\
I respond on MY schedule. I'm not here very often as this is the sort of immature behavior I typically encounter. It's not exactly motivating to bother to spend my time conversing with people with such histrionic reactions to anything outside their realm of experience.

Also, I don't think it needs illustration to be considered a "high price", that obviously comes down to means & goals. What it does however indicate is someone's insecurity about OTHER PEOPLE'S ability to do a thing aka jealousy, which is pointless & silly. If he wants to buy another chair, that's his prerogative, but subjecting me to his hyperbole crazy-pants reaction comes with an effect from said cause.

I'm not sure where you're getting upset out that response.

Additionally, it's not a high price for what it is, but surely you read my original post to understand why that is. People's financial agency differs. I don't think I should have to explain this. But I do think I shouldn't have to defend it.
Post edited August 27, 2019 by ColJohnMatrix
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ColJohnMatrix: I respond on MY schedule. I'm not here very often as this is the sort of immature behavior I typically encounter. It's not exactly motivating to bother to spend my time conversing with people with such histrionic reactions to anything outside their realm of experience.

Also, I don't think it needs illustration to be considered a "high price", that obviously comes down to means & goals. What it does however indicate is someone's insecurity about OTHER PEOPLE'S ability to do a thing aka jealousy, which is pointless & silly. If he wants to buy another chair, that's his prerogative, but subjecting me to his hyperbole crazy-pants reaction comes with an effect from said cause.

I'm not sure where you're getting upset out that response.

Additionally, it's not a high price for what it is, but surely you read my original post to understand why that is. People's financial agency differs. I don't think I should have to explain this. But I do think I shouldn't have to defend it.
Sorry if you felt I was making a dig on your reply speed....I was more commenting on the fact he made a comment about 900 bucks being crazy for a chair and you seemed to take it a bit too harshly....then he got crude back and replied a bit rudely and it kept going.

In the end I don't see why you two are arguing over it.
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GameRager: Sorry if you felt I was making a dig on your reply speed....I was more commenting on the fact he made a comment about 900 bucks being crazy for a chair and you seemed to take it a bit too harshly....then he got crude back and replied a bit rudely and it kept going.

In the end I don't see why you two are arguing over it.
He CHOSE to respond that way. That's on him. I wouldn't be in a position of needing to respond in kind had he not put me there to begin with. This is just basic cause & effect.
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GameRager: Also: There are bad things in life......people need to learn to live with such and be happy with what they have. Just my two cents.
If the bad thing is man-made, there is no reason to just "live with it".

Similarly, if the bad thing is preventable, we should not just "live with it".

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dtgreene: Even a point of no return that isn't a surprise can be bad.
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GameRager: Not to me(or not as much). If I know such is coming it's loads better than not as I can prepare for such ahead of time.
Except that then I end up worrying too much and overpreparing to the point that I end up quitting the game before I continue part that point.
Post edited August 27, 2019 by dtgreene
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ColJohnMatrix: He CHOSE to respond that way. That's on him. I wouldn't be in a position of needing to respond in kind had he not put me there to begin with. This is just basic cause & effect.
No you Chose to be petty and a smug little prick about it.

Hey I'm defending my turf, KID.

I've been around here a LOT longer then most of you have! (I say MOST not ALL)

JULY 2009 I registered have a good look!

BTW all I said was 900 bucks is too much for just a chair a very basic chair at that.

My chair has a multi-Vibrate function

It has

Pulsate

Tapping

Rolling

Auto - Whatever this does

Kneading

It targets the

Upper back

Lower back

Hips

Thighs

I think I broke the heating function though

Does your 900/1300 buck chair do that, No?
Post edited August 28, 2019 by fr33kSh0w2012
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fr33kSh0w2012: (snipped blather)
Wow, you seem very convinced of that. I'm sure impressed. I'm sure the entire IT industry is avoiding your super great chair because they have yet to stumble onto this thread & your unassailable logic. And you're supposed to be Libertarian? I don't think you have the remotest clue what that means. Your entire argument runs counter to that philosophy. I'm sure this is just one of many contradictions you possess.

Anyways, I'm done with this completely pointless discussion. Control your insecurity, seek therapy, & consider medication for your psychological disorder. Maybe it's not too late for you.
Having to hold down a button when a simple click would have sufficed erks the hell out of me. No Man's Sky does this all the time.

Turning games into movies by focusing too much on the story and cgi and not enough on actual gameplay.

Edit: Forgot to put annoying quicktime events in here as well. Pressing a button when your screen tells you to is not good gameplay.
Post edited August 28, 2019 by jepsen1977
Censor and politically correct bull.
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ColJohnMatrix: He CHOSE to respond that way. That's on him. I wouldn't be in a position of needing to respond in kind had he not put me there to begin with. This is just basic cause & effect.
First, the first reply wasn't so bad...though yes the later ones were a bit rude.

Also you don't NEED to reply to anything here or anywhere online short of bill payment emails/etc. This may sound a bit rude but its' the truth for everyone.

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GameRager: Also: There are bad things in life......people need to learn to live with such and be happy with what they have. Just my two cents.
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dtgreene: If the bad thing is man-made, there is no reason to just "live with it".

Similarly, if the bad thing is preventable, we should not just "live with it".

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GameRager: Not to me(or not as much). If I know such is coming it's loads better than not as I can prepare for such ahead of time.
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dtgreene: Except that then I end up worrying too much and overpreparing to the point that I end up quitting the game before I continue part that point.
1st bit: If it is preventable then do what you can to prevent it. If it is unpreventable and you cannot stop or prevent it do your best to limit the bad it does(if it affects yourself or those you know/care about) and not worry so much about the stuff you cannot change or impact.

Basically I am saying stress is bad and we shouldn't make more of it by adding things to worry or obsess over in life(I have experience with this...having bad OCD and all).

2nd bit: Then(and this is going to sound rude, but I believe in honesty over mincing words all the time just to be overly nice) you need to work on being able to handle such better if such makes you quit a game so easily, or(as you likely do) find other games that don't do that sort of thing.

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fr33kSh0w2012: No you Chose to be petty and a smug little prick about it.

Hey I'm defending my turf, KID.

I've been around here a LOT longer then most of you have! (I say MOST not ALL)

JULY 2009 I registered have a good look!

BTW all I said was 900 bucks is too much for just a chair a very basic chair at that.
The first four lines are a bit conversation ending and don't help your case, but the rest is somewhat good points(if a bit smug).
Post edited August 28, 2019 by GameRager
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ColJohnMatrix: He CHOSE to respond that way. That's on him. I wouldn't be in a position of needing to respond in kind had he not put me there to begin with. This is just basic cause & effect.
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GameRager: First, the first reply wasn't so bad...though yes the later ones were a bit rude.

Also you don't NEED to reply to anything here or anywhere online short of bill payment emails/etc. This may sound a bit rude but its' the truth for everyone.

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dtgreene: If the bad thing is man-made, there is no reason to just "live with it".

Similarly, if the bad thing is preventable, we should not just "live with it".

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Except that then I end up worrying too much and overpreparing to the point that I end up quitting the game before I continue part that point.
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GameRager: 1st bit: If it is preventable then do what you can to prevent it. If it is unpreventable and you cannot stop or prevent it do your best to limit the bad it does(if it affects yourself or those you know/care about) and not worry so much about the stuff you cannot change or impact.

Basically I am saying stress is bad and we shouldn't make more of it by adding things to worry or obsess over in life(I have experience with this...having bad OCD and all).

2nd bit: Then(and this is going to sound rude, but I believe in honesty over mincing words all the time just to be overly nice) you need to work on being able to handle such better if such makes you quit a game so easily, or(as you likely do) find other games that don't do that sort of thing.

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fr33kSh0w2012: No you Chose to be petty and a smug little prick about it.

Hey I'm defending my turf, KID.

I've been around here a LOT longer then most of you have! (I say MOST not ALL)

JULY 2009 I registered have a good look!

BTW all I said was 900 bucks is too much for just a chair a very basic chair at that.
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GameRager: The first four lines are a bit conversation ending and don't help your case, but the rest is somewhat good points(if a bit smug).
That's exactly what I was aiming for Ending it and shoving it back up his rear end!
Badly made checkpoint only save systems. Typical example would be Doom 2016.

Autoheal. You should always have to do something to regain health, not just hide for 5 seconds and continue on like nothing happened. This is the single reason why Mass Effect 2 has mind-numbingly boring gameplay.

Ammo over-saturation. In 90% of FPS games, I am literally drowning in it the entire time. I have to actively try to run out of ammo for a single weapon. Why even have ammo in the game when you never have to manage it?

Fragile enemies and headshot focus. When every enemy succumbs to 1-2 headshots max, the game quickly becomes boring. Old Doom did this the best. Some enemies are extremely fragile and die in 2 pistol shots, some are extremely tough and take 5+ rockets. Duke 3D is on the other side of the spectrum. The vast majority of enemies in the game just die to 1-2 shotgun shots and this remains throughout all the episodes....

Fragile buildings in RTS games. Typical example would be Starcraft or Age of Mythology. Buildings are just irrelevant paper that can be steamrolled the moment you get several units on them. Compare that to Battle for Middle Earth or Age of Empires 2 where sieging a castle is a serious ordeal. I vastly prefer that.

Constantly nagging NPCs ceaselessly telling you to do something every 10 seconds and not shutting up until you do so.

Too limited weapon carrying capacity. Using only 2 weapons the entire game just sucks.

Hidden collectibles that improve your character in any way. Then I feel obligated to find them and spend hours doing boring and tedious stuff of having to explore every inch of the map carefully and back-track several times in case I missed something.

Grenade indicators. I should notice the grenade flying/enemy throwing it. I should have awareness, not a huge UI indicator with an arrow and grenade icon blinking red like crazy every time there is a grenade within 1km radius around me.

Unskippable tutorials that treat you like you have the brain capacity of a vegetable.

Overpowered team-mate revival in co-op games. When someone gets downed and you revive him, he should have only a sliver of health and have to retreat and recover in most cases. The reviving process should also take a decent amount of time (I'd say at least 6-7 seconds) since you are bringing a player back into the game, which is huge. Yet in most games I see/try that have this mechanic, the revive takes like 3 seconds tops and people are revived at either full or at half health at best. The player should be punished for getting downed. The fact they are being given another chance by revival is enough. Why they also receive a full heal is beyond me. When being downed is just a faster way to heal, something is wrong.
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fr33kSh0w2012: That's exactly what I was aiming for Ending it and shoving it back up his rear end!
Dude, sometimes you make good points but you need to learn when to let stuff go and not add fuel to the fire.....just sayin'.