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TL:DR the people who think the metric system is more logical or easier are mostly people who don't understand how the imperial system works , have never paid attention to what they're doing with the measurements or haven't used both systems long enough to get comfortable with them. In the years I was using the metric system, it never made anything I was doing easier, except for science. Outside of science, the metric system doesn't make anything easier. Most of the time it's a draw, but when it's not a draw the imperial measures usually win.
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The result is that imperial measures suck balls for science and the metric system is rarely the easiest system of measure for daily living.
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Also, whoever came up with dd/mm/yyyy has my eternal scorn. It is without a doubt the least useful order in popular usage (especially since the possible values can very by month and year).
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TL:DR the people who think the metric system is more logical or easier are mostly people who don't understand how the imperial system works , have never paid attention to what they're doing with the measurements or haven't used both systems long enough to get comfortable with them. In the years I was using the metric system, it never made anything I was doing easier, except for science. Outside of science, the metric system doesn't make anything easier. Most of the time it's a draw, but when it's not a draw the imperial measures usually win.
Honestly, it really doesn't. For science and technology, it does, however for daily living it doesn't. And that makes sense, the imperial measures were pretty much invented for things people do in daily living. The SI units that the metric system uses were designed for science.
The result is that imperial measures suck balls for science and the metric system is rarely the easiest system of measure for daily living.
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Also, whoever came up with dd/mm/yyyy has my eternal scorn. It is without a doubt the least useful order in popular usage (especially since the possible values can very by month and year).
If the metric system were better, the US likely would have been one of the first to use it. We were one of the first countries to adopt metric currency and we were one of the first to adopt the SI for our standards. But, over a century later and we pretty much just use metric measurements for medicine and not much else.
Hell, we switched all our trains over to standard gauge tracks even though it was a massive undertaking.
Ultimately, I don't personally care what units of measure are used various places, I just get a tad annoyed when folks act like metric is better for daily living, because it's not.
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Also, whoever came up with dd/mm/yyyy has my eternal scorn. It is without a doubt the least useful order in popular usage (especially since the possible values can very by month and year).
![avatar](http://images.gog.com/8e479c443288f152170c4b92a1d606fc09a248e1c284a9af39474315fb98d041_avm.jpg)
If the metric system were better, the US likely would have been one of the first to use it. We were one of the first countries to adopt metric currency and we were one of the first to adopt the SI for our standards. But, over a century later and we pretty much just use metric measurements for medicine and not much else.
Hell, we switched all our trains over to standard gauge tracks even though it was a massive undertaking.
Ultimately, I don't personally care what units of measure are used various places, I just get a tad annoyed when folks act like metric is better for daily living, because it's not.
also, ounces aren't used. grams are. alongside lbs. hopefully it'll be entirely metric in a few more years.
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Anyways, the US was pretty much the only place in the world with a functioning system of measure. We had the Bureau of Weights and Measures that went out and confiscated scales and measuring devices that weren't in compliance with the standards.
And BTW, you've left China off the list. China isn't a metric country. They use 3 different systems of measure depending upon the context. Most of the time things are metric, but good luck trying to buy clothes in metric sizes, that's all imperial measure.
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If the metric system were better, the US likely would have been one of the first to use it. We were one of the first countries to adopt metric currency and we were one of the first to adopt the SI for our standards. But, over a century later and we pretty much just use metric measurements for medicine and not much else.
Hell, we switched all our trains over to standard gauge tracks even though it was a massive undertaking.
Ultimately, I don't personally care what units of measure are used various places, I just get a tad annoyed when folks act like metric is better for daily living, because it's not.
![avatar](http://images.gog.com/0837e036fca55de8b804b69044cb2438657491c639e00eaf0cb311070125e428_avm.jpg)
also, ounces aren't used. grams are. alongside lbs. hopefully it'll be entirely metric in a few more years.
When's the last time you needed to increase or reduce batch by a factor of 10? Doing the more typical double and half batches of things with imperial measures is ridiculously easy.
Like I've said, I have yet to come across a situation where something is genuinely easier to do with metric measures other than in the sciences. People get used to kludging around with metric approximations and don't realize just how much extra work it is.
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A country that uses system A (no matter what said system is) for measurements will have recipes and groceries that use that system as well. If you try to translate from one system to the other, you will encounter trouble, but a recipe that calls for weights in a specific system will usually go for the easily measurable denominations.
Take a look at this apple pie (or apple cake) recipe. To translate the ingredients it uses, it says:
1/2 kg diced apples
1/2 kg all purpose flour
1 satchel baking powder
1 teaspoon soda
1 1/2 teaspoons cinnamon clover (no idea)
orange zest
1 vanilla
4 eggs
1 glass olive oil
1 glass orange juice
1 glass sugar
How to divide that by half? Quarter of kilo, half a glass. How to multiply by 2? 1kg, 2 glasses. How to convert to imperial? Good luck.1/2 kg all purpose flour
1 satchel baking powder
1 teaspoon soda
1 1/2 teaspoons cinnamon clover (no idea)
orange zest
1 vanilla
4 eggs
1 glass olive oil
1 glass orange juice
1 glass sugar
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Besides, if you do decide to double, double & a half, triple the recipe, you'll probably quickly do the math, write notes on a card for the new amounts and go with that (and reasonable rounding as appropriate).
Besides as with intermediate systems, i wouldn't doubt they could come up with a 'cup' being 250ml if that amount is used fairly often, or for length having a 'foot' as 25cm.
I suppose we could instead make an intermediates between each level so instead of x10 it's x5....
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Anyways, the US was pretty much the only place in the world with a functioning system of measure. We had the Bureau of Weights and Measures that went out and confiscated scales and measuring devices that weren't in compliance with the standards.
And BTW, you've left China off the list. China isn't a metric country. They use 3 different systems of measure depending upon the context. Most of the time things are metric, but good luck trying to buy clothes in metric sizes, that's all imperial measure.
![avatar](http://images.gog.com/0837e036fca55de8b804b69044cb2438657491c639e00eaf0cb311070125e428_avm.jpg)
also, ounces aren't used. grams are. alongside lbs. hopefully it'll be entirely metric in a few more years.
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When's the last time you needed to increase or reduce batch by a factor of 10? Doing the more typical double and half batches of things with imperial measures is ridiculously easy.
Like I've said, I have yet to come across a situation where something is genuinely easier to do with metric measures other than in the sciences. People get used to kludging around with metric approximations and don't realize just how much extra work it is.
it is true that imperial is easier with smaller numbers and simpler operations. it has its roots in very old measurements systems. but metric is far more reliable and versatile once you have the hang of it.
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There's a real simple reason why the United States will not go full metric. It's because of our roads. The US has almost 4.1 million miles of roadways (the only Euro country in the top 10 is France with about 15% of our amount of roadways). We would have to replace all the mile marker signs, speed limit signs, distance signs, and on/off ramp signs (since those tend to be based on mileage). That would be an unbelievable cost for something that has little to no practical usage in that area. No politician is going to be on board with such an expenditure when we have a hard enough time just keeping the roads repaired.
Then there's the fact that our legal land descriptions are based upon miles and our legal survey markers are based in feet and miles. All of that stuff would have to be converted at an enormous cost.
Then there's the fact that our legal land descriptions are based upon miles and our legal survey markers are based in feet and miles. All of that stuff would have to be converted at an enormous cost.