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Posted April 05, 2019
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PookaMustard: - Reliance on internet servers for anything to operate. Not as in DRM-style "authenticate before usage" but rather "you can't use this function without relaying the input to a server and giving you an output." This makes the Internet of Things scene a mess that you can't rely on for the long-term, on top of the costs of setting up one. It's one of these nice applications of networks that are ruined by horrendous implementations.
Similarly, places that expect you to be carrying a portable device with Internet access. I have encountered this in a couple instances:
1. A (in person) conference that did not have any printed schedules anywhere.
2. A (physical) shopping mall that didn't have any directories anywhere as far as I could tell.

(I don't remember if I've said this in this topic, but I think I mentioned this somewhere on this forum before.)
Posted April 05, 2019
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dtgreene: (I don't remember if I've said this in this topic, but I think I mentioned this somewhere on this forum before.)
Yes, you did post that in this topic (I read the first couple of posts). Post 21 to be precise.
Post edited April 05, 2019 by PookaMustard
Posted April 05, 2019
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Hesusio: I know it's pretty much every second post at this point, but social media. I don't mind the idea in theory. I enjoy talking shit with all of my friends over the internet as much as the next guy. In practice though, it's true purpose is to allow your boss, your government and anyone who wants to sell you something to spy on you.

Not to mention, it somehow made the already utterly insufferable celebrity culture 1000x worse. Pre-2008 or so, I wouldn't have thought for a second that was even possible, but we as a society overcame the odds and managed to find a way. Well done us, I suppose.
I think social media has just put all the bad elements on supercharge. Keyword limits have stunted interactivity and conversation range, hacking has become far worse now, and Orwellian data centers are gobbling up every single bit of info they can on ppls' lives, networks, and interests.

No, I saw it coming back in the Myspace days and even got rid of that around 2006 or so. Once Google grabbed up Youtube I deleted my account there as well. Only way to get in touch with me now is through cell or private email. Because of social media, my presence online has become limited basically to email and a few forums like this one. I don't necessarily see it as a bad thing.

People are putting their entire lives online now, for everyone to see. If it's true that knowledge is power, well people are putting way too much power into the hands of strangers, bosses, jilted ex lovers, and government snoop agencies.
Posted April 05, 2019
Good points there, I comment on this:

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jonwil: Things in tech I hate:
1.Wireless keyboards and mice. Its getting harder to find a decent mouse that isn't wireless or some fancy super-expensive gaming thing.
I personally don't mind wireless keyboards and mice (I use them with my laptop), BUT in normal desktop use I do use wired keyboards and mice, especially when gaming.

One reason I "accept" wireless keyboards and mice is that they still use removable batteries, so they don't become obsolete just because their integrated battery eventually dies, nor they need to be recharged.

Which reminds me that earlier "wireless" (no power cord) used to mean that you do use removable batteries. I e.g. still have one portable CD player/speaker system (can handle mp3 too) which uses regular batteries. Also, the Sennheiser noise-cancelling earphones I bought many years ago are also using removable batteries (for noise cancelling).

I wonder why that has changed? Don't removable batteries offer as much power as integrated batteries, ie. the mobile devices have become so much more power hungry? I would have thought that CD player system did use quite a lot of power, considering it had speakers too. And, you can buy rechargeable removable batteries as well, in case you don't want to keep buying new batteries all the time.

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GameRager: 1. Plus with wireless stuff you needs batteries galore or charging devices(and have to wait for charging to finish).
Well. my wireless mouse uses one AA battery, and the keyboard three AA batteries, if I recall right. They last several months of occasional use, many many weeks of constant use as well. So i don't have to change the batteries that often.

That sad, being wireless like that doesn't really offer any benefit in desktop use, so there i still use wired mouse and keyboard. But if i e.g. connect my laptop to my big TV with HDMI and play the computer from the couch, yeah there a wireless mouse and keyboard are great (the laptop itself can lie on a table a couple of meters from me).
Post edited April 05, 2019 by timppu
Posted April 05, 2019
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echosa: I hate how the anonymity provided by the Internet has brought out the worst in people just because there's little-to-no chance of being caught or retribution. Just because you don't think you'll get caught doesn't mean you should act like a [words I can't say on the forums]. I just don't get how people can be that way, IRL or online. It sickens me to think that some people not only feel no remorse, they even enjoy it. I just don't get it.
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GameRager: I'm actually in the opposite camp(well maybe centerist camp). I'm all for anonymity/anonymous posting as it allows for more genuine(uncensored/more truthful, if a tad harsh sometimes) dialog and keeps companies/gov'ts from squashing all free speech & dissent online.

Why should it be this way? Because i'd like to say(examples)"susie could stand to lose some weight", "tom is an awful drunk", "x leader sucks and should be out of office", or "y religion is terrible and is cruel to women and other religions" online without fear of losing my job/freedom/life(i'm looking at you, UK/middle east). Yes, unfiltered speech online can lead to bad things like some people having mental issues because of trolls/terrible truths coming to light, but in my opinion i'd rather have this freedom then not when push comes to shove and I DO need it for some reason.

What to do about actual trolls(and not people labelled as such by dumb people and NPCs)? Ignore them/filter them/block them, but don't force people to speak a certain way(through laws/etc) online. The internet(some sites, besides the big ones which are already censor heavy like facebook/twitter/youtube/etc) is the one of the few remaining places that allows true freedom, and it shouldn't be squashed or rendered impotent by control freaks and power mad despots.
I should clarify. It's not the anonymity that I hate. It's people acting like jerks because of it. It's the same as people stealing lunches from an office break room. Just because no one knows its you and you probably won't get caught doesn't mean you should do terrible things. I'm ok with anonymity because it allows people to discuss things they otherwise might not be able to. I'm just not ok with people using anonymity to be a**hats.

I don't want to squash freedom. Not in the least. I just want people to not be a**hats. Unfortunately, there will always be people who are a**hats. And *that* is what I hate.
Posted April 06, 2019
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echosa: I should clarify. It's not the anonymity that I hate. It's people acting like jerks because of it. It's the same as people stealing lunches from an office break room. Just because no one knows its you and you probably won't get caught doesn't mean you should do terrible things. I'm ok with anonymity because it allows people to discuss things they otherwise might not be able to. I'm just not ok with people using anonymity to be a**hats.
People wanting to act like jerks always found an outlet for it. You're saying that you hate having to find new ways to ignore them? Well, that's life - the world changes, people a lot less - I'm sure you're used to adapting...
Posted April 06, 2019
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echosa: I should clarify. It's not the anonymity that I hate. It's people acting like jerks because of it. It's the same as people stealing lunches from an office break room. Just because no one knows its you and you probably won't get caught doesn't mean you should do terrible things. I'm ok with anonymity because it allows people to discuss things they otherwise might not be able to. I'm just not ok with people using anonymity to be a**hats.
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teceem: People wanting to act like jerks always found an outlet for it. You're saying that you hate having to find new ways to ignore them? Well, that's life - the world changes, people a lot less - I'm sure you're used to adapting...
I'm not worried about me. It's not about me ignoring them. I can adapt, and I do. Not every one can, though. It's a social cause. I worry about others. Older folks who get scammed. Younger kids who get bullied. Random folks who get raided/trolled/attacked en masse. It's life, sure, but so is cancer, and I hate that, too. I just hate people who take advantage of others and/or willfully act negatively to others. Unfortunately, anonymity of any kind brings out the worst in some people

tl;dr - Why can't we all just get along?
Another tech trend I hate: 2FA via SMS. 1) It requires giving a phone number, which you may not want to do. 2) It's not very secure. Still better than no 2FA at all, but 2FA via app is better: https://www.howtogeek.com/310418/why-you-shouldnt-use-sms-for-two-factor-authentication/
Post edited April 06, 2019 by echosa
Posted April 08, 2019
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Hesusio: I know it's pretty much every second post at this point, but social media. I don't mind the idea in theory. I enjoy talking shit with all of my friends over the internet as much as the next guy. In practice though, it's true purpose is to allow your boss, your government and anyone who wants to sell you something to spy on you.
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Not to mention, it somehow made the already utterly insufferable celebrity culture 1000x worse. Pre-2008 or so, I wouldn't have thought for a second that was even possible, but we as a society overcame the odds and managed to find a way. Well done us, I suppose.
Agreed. Spying to maintain tabs(to sell people stuff, and to allow people/groups to fin d dirt to bury their enemies) is a good portion of "free" social media sites.

Heck, that one leak(the big wikileaks one) showed corps funnel alot of that data to centers nationwide to collect it for usage later(I don't recall how they use it, but it's probably not for any good use).
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And yeah, many seem to have overinflated egos as a result(though I consider the spying[understandably] a bit worse).

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Emob78: I think social media has just put all the bad elements on supercharge. Keyword limits have stunted interactivity and conversation range, hacking has become far worse now, and Orwellian data centers are gobbling up every single bit of info they can on ppls' lives, networks, and interests.
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No, I saw it coming back in the Myspace days and even got rid of that around 2006 or so. Once Google grabbed up Youtube I deleted my account there as well. Only way to get in touch with me now is through cell or private email. Because of social media, my presence online has become limited basically to email and a few forums like this one. I don't necessarily see it as a bad thing.

People are putting their entire lives online now, for everyone to see. If it's true that knowledge is power, well people are putting way too much power into the hands of strangers, bosses, jilted ex lovers, and government snoop agencies.
The keyword limit crap on Soc Media is also BS. Text uses very little disk space/bandwidth, so they could stand to increase char limits on some sites. It(and the instant gratification need of many people) leads to the stupid text lingo we have nowadays(simple stuff like abbreviations such as LOL/AMA/IRL is fine, as are emotes, imo).
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I keep a youtube for flagged content(which happens to even some political/ideological content, or videos on certain current issues) & an email for signing up to stuff(and a backup email to keep the primary one from crapping out/etc), but not much else(beyond signing up for GOG/Steam/some forums/etc. Anything more(for the most part) would just be feeding the data retention giants with ad revenue and info on my personal life, so scr*w that.
Post edited April 08, 2019 by GameRager
Posted April 08, 2019
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GameRager: 1. Plus with wireless stuff you needs batteries galore or charging devices(and have to wait for charging to finish).
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timppu: Well. my wireless mouse uses one AA battery, and the keyboard three AA batteries, if I recall right. They last several months of occasional use, many many weeks of constant use as well. So i don't have to change the batteries that often.
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That said, being wireless like that doesn't really offer any benefit in desktop use, so there i still use wired mouse and keyboard. But if i e.g. connect my laptop to my big TV with HDMI and play the computer from the couch, yeah there a wireless mouse and keyboard are great (the laptop itself can lie on a table a couple of meters from me).
I have a Wii(classic) wireless sensor bar(I went and splurged for it on impulse) and it nburns through a set of 4 AA batteries every 10-12 hours. :\
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Yeah, wireless can have it's uses.
Posted April 08, 2019
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echosa: Another tech trend I hate: 2FA via SMS. 1) It requires giving a phone number, which you may not want to do. 2) It's not very secure. Still better than no 2FA at all, but 2FA via app is better: https://www.howtogeek.com/310418/why-you-shouldnt-use-sms-for-two-factor-authentication/
3. It can't be used by those who can't get SMS messages, like me.
Posted April 08, 2019
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dtgreene: 3. It can't be used by those who can't get SMS messages, like me.
But by those who don't have a smartphone, like me ;-)
Posted April 08, 2019
For me, I dislike all the voice activated devices, like Siri and Alexa. There seems to be something built into them that just listens to what you are saying. I was going to my mom's house, and I metioned as much out loud, and Siri automatically had a popup for directions, to my mom's house. Thing was, I had never input her address into my phone.
Posted April 08, 2019
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dtgreene: 3. It can't be used by those who can't get SMS messages, like me.
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toxicTom: But by those who don't have a smartphone, like me ;-)
I don't have a smartphone, either (or at least not a modern one; the one I hae, which is not connected to any service (so no internet access, except maybe through wi-fi) is so old it has a physical keyboard, which seems to be something you haven't been able to find on that sort of device for quite a while).
Posted April 08, 2019
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carpediem15: For me, I dislike all the voice activated devices, like Siri and Alexa. There seems to be something built into them that just listens to what you are saying. I was going to my mom's house, and I metioned as much out loud, and Siri automatically had a popup for directions, to my mom's house. Thing was, I had never input her address into my phone.
I sometimes wonder: Cortana, Alexa and Siri left alone - would they start to bicker? Or as one say "Ok Google. How to take over the world?"
Posted April 08, 2019
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This sums up social media nicely!

This too!
Post edited April 08, 2019 by fr33kSh0w2012
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General discussionWhat (non-gaming) popular modern technology/inventions/trends you hate?(174 posts)(174 posts)
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