Not sure where you got any insult here, as im openly sayd what "i cant believe". I hoped for some explanation of a step when i got you wrong, what resulted in that paradoxal outcome. But if you mean what i should indeed start to believe into it - i had to comply, just i usually trying to expect a good from other people, not bad. If you somehow manage to see that pic abusive to you, we're better stop, thats right.

Here's why LoN failed. LoN was supposed to be this almighty creation that will unite humans and bring world peace, and in Woodrow Wilson's vision maybe even stop world starvation. Problem was that not many countries agreed with this. They signed a treaty and that was about it. LoN had no army to impose it's rules and no objective leader. UN is different in this case. It has military and entire councils to decide what when and where, bu here springs another difference. After WWII the agenda of the world changed too. Wilson was probably the only leader that was influenced by Enlightenment principles when he created LoN, but none of his successors were. So how do you stop countries like Japan, US, Russia, GB etc. from forming alliances and plotting another war? You put them under the same roof under the same alliance (no pun intended for Terra), this way it becomes a bit more complicated to act. In the meantime, technology avoid a great deal. We have now reached a point where a world war may be fatal for life on Terra and nobody is willing to take the risk to test that theory anymore. You can outlaw bio weapons, you can outlaw poisonous gases, you can outlaw explosive bullets. But humans like a saying: "In war and love, everything's permitted!"

I understand, I'm on the side of the Ukraine, a sovereign nation; just as I'd be on your side, if you were ever invaded.

Spin and disinformation always exists in these matters, that is why I just try to put myself as a member of the nation that it is happening to.

I would just want to be left alone, as the Ukraine was for years. They did not attack anyone, yet they are getting the crap.

They are the only nation that had nukes that gave them up, on their own, so I'm inclined to believe that they aren't expansionist in nature.

This crap should just cease.

I guess i got what you mean already. You are still implying what the fact of WW3 hadnt started yet, is attributed to some entity, what was created with such claim. You understand, what you can claim what Reptiloids hadnt overcome "Terra" yet, only because AluminiumHatWatchman bravely keep them at bay (as they claim)? And yes, its quite puzzling, why they had sign Atlantic Charter, if they meant something completely different.

Oh, that of no doubt then, fully agree here. Just its not cost-effective factor, returning to the start again.

Cost effectiveness is debatable. We can argue as much as we want about this, but truth is, the most cost effective governments in the world are those of countries like Norway and Finland. And here rise's the question. What cost is too high to maintain peace?

Err, you hardly can compare Norway or Finland with UN, with goal to make UN looks decent. UN is closer to some Colombia or Venezuela at best. Problem is what you need to generate an alternative universe without nuclear deterrence, but with same UN to measure how it actually work. We all know what UN can stop "little wars", and be blamed for it afterthat, but we simply cant know for sure what it actually do in case of major one, as it have no mechanisms to actually influence the "superpower" in case it decide not to listen at some point. You can also easily say what LN was effective in maintaining the "Terra" "major peace" for whooping 19.5 years.

How so if LN didn't stop militarism of Germany, Russia and US?

I did missed something here? UN had stopped theyr militarisms now? Or you mean it "doesnt seen them outright clashing eachother during UN functioninig"? But then again - LN did that for same whooping 19.5 years, ofc UN doing better, that no doubt.

ok that was a fail, i guess.

Welcome to the club... not on topic, but I have one sitting out there too :-)

I have never said UN's mission is to stop militarism. That's what you just implied. Once again I go to basics. UN's role is of balance.

and that's as far away from truth as it can be - terrorists are doing that - http://by24.org/2014/07/14/russian_terrorists_in_lugansk_killed_people_in_civil_districts/. You are free to believe whatever you want but think for a moment about this - if these are ukrainian soldiers how could they should from inside of the city controlled by terrorists ?


Of course you are:) doesn't mean you're on the right side though.

Some people should study foreign language a bit more to make some sense. Had a good laugh of some russian folks telling "true" stories about Ukraine and real situation in it. Keep telling shit. The more it stinks, the less people will actually continue to participate in this wrongly named topic, the more reasons to eventually can it.