Crisis of colossal proportions? That seems a bit overblown, don't you think? Why is it a crisis of colossal proportions?

The extent of this on the vast majority is simply: If you use twitch, change your passwords

So it makes total sense that news outlets would also focus on the actual data that was leaked.

There are 3 women among Top100 earners in that list. I find it to be something worth mentioning.
Sure, they mistake by omitting the Critical Role but is it something that should condemn the article as whole?

My rule of thumb for gaming/etc articles: if the author tries to shoehorn current year stuff into said article in such a ham-fisted manner, then "into the trash it goes"
(ok, maybe a quick skim for any actual relevant info if a better article can't be found)

Only going off of surface level-details is evidence of either stupidity or malice, both of which are common in modern mainstream games coverage. Twitch's overall environment has been known for being anti-creator and there are several instances of bans being given / taken away arbitrarily.

Many female streamers have done stuff like ''accidentally'' flashing their privates or doing other sexual stuff and get away with minor repercussions while some male streamers have been permabanned because the staff grasped at straws to kick them off.

There have also been cases where twitch refused to grant partnership to creators who have been successful in un-partnered unmonetized streams. On Twitch, unlike youtube, getting monetization permission is a matter of the staff's discretion and there are hundreds of creators who have tried and gotten followings only to never receive the magic ticket and quit.

Also, people should be judged according to the content they create, not overall earnings. I don't expect Dark Souls speedrunners to earn on par with ''just talking'' personalities and hot tub streams.

Without taking all of this and many other things into context, going into I can't even mode is like blaming a hairline crack for the collapse of a derelict building.

Probably the people who like them I'd imagine. I don't like cheese, but I don't hope everyone who does can no longer have it?


Twitch is what you make of it, don't want the stereotypical stuff, avoid the huge streams. Plenty of good stuff to find and people to talk to

Titty streamer thots blown the fuck out.

Fair enough, still....some people wish such things all the time(closing up shop) about various sites. If they want to do so(and don't actually have any control over said sites), I say let them....it's their opinion/mind, after all, and it's not like their thoughts can change things.

(also even if for some odd reason said sites did close/etc....there's always more to enjoy of a similar nature)

Cheese isn't ruining the world. Social media are. For everyone. It's not like by not using them I get to magicaly live in a parallel world where their effects don't exist.

Tbh, I think it's more people's rampant over use of/reliance upon such(moderation is key in many things), and less such kinds of sites actually existing being the main problem(and also the fact that a number of people are easily led to believe near about anything nowadays...i.e. a number of people seem to lack willpower and self control, and are easily influenced by things others post/say online). That said, I somewhat hear ya on the subject of social media/etc.

If these companies were treated as businesses properly then every time they wronged their creators they would get summoned into a civil court and hopefully it would be a start correcting the problem.

I consider streaming to be one of the greatest threats to gaming. It encourages a passive mentality that says people are not to play video games but to watch other people playing them. You ever wonder why so many people own thousands of unplayed games on Steam, with it being likely they'll never play them all in their lifetime?

I saw this recently and it reminded me of twitches scummy behaviour.
https://twitter.com/dpakman/status/1457753174735998979 FYI it wasn't that gory and you would see worse in a supermarket.

I'm not sure what your point is but it looks like your saying people using twitch are self employed thus have no rights but that doesn't remove twitches crimes by breaking or abusing their contracts or terms.
Most people are using twitch to play games or for fun instead of using it to turn a profit so the argument of self employed loopholes wouldn't apply anyway.
There are different laws for different countries so their actions will fall foul of some if not all of them.


You could say the problems are with the games themselves. A lot of them lose their value over time or have game play which isn't that great or only exist to slow down the story progression.

yep this is ruining gaming
no wonder games are not made to be fun to play when most of the kids just watch em , and the streamers make monkey faces etc so the kiddoes can luls out their mind
oh and they still buy the games to never play them or just play a half hour and write a poz review : "best game ever" or
some other one liners they heard during the streams...

just watch twitch chats and the brain rotting of this activity is clearly visible

and some come with cheese and such... what a true evidence for this result

No, I'm saying that even if twitch was properly treated as a business as you said, they'll resort to the usual set of excuses to continue wronging their creators. I'm not saying the creators are not deserving of rights but that twitch will easily walk over anyone because it isn't reliant on any one creator and no one would hold them to account for their end of the contract legally.

Rule enforcement is nepotistic on twitch and it has been for a long time but no one dares to take it up legally. People have been banned for technicalities while other who pushed the rules to their limits intentionally have walked free with no consequences. There is a whole soft camwhore section on twitch but the rules only apply to creators who made unintentional mistakes and get punished for it by pure technicality.

I used to have faith in the legal system and a belief that giant companies can be taken to task by the little guy. I realized that that's just not possible, at least vs tech giants like twitch or youtube.
Twitch streamers especially are more personality than game. Youtube LPers may be used a substitute by some people who can't play a game but in re twitch streamers, the people are there for the streamer and not the game. And most of them play multiplayer games in the first place, and most of the games they play are games like fortnite or apex or MMO RPGs, which don't have a low player problem.